FBI executes search warrant at Mar-a-Lago

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  1. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Law doesn’t need a viewpoint. The only opions on law worth a fuck are the SC judges. After all, they are the final authority.

    As such, when they have previously opined, as provided, that should be settled. Correct?
     
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  2. seabrookcajun

    seabrookcajun Founding Member

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    I'm still looking for the SC decision that you posted in this thread.
     
  3. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    I literally reposted a few posts ago.
     
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    seabrookcajun Founding Member

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    I apologize. I see it now.
     
  5. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    not necessarily, most of the time such an affadavit would remain sealed because it contains the names of witnesses, inside sources and/or national security information that they want shielded from the general public.
     
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    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    Link to evidence of this conspiracy theory?
     
  7. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    .What we now know about the Investigation into Trump and the search of Mar-a-Lago:

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...trump-months-before-mar-a-lago-search-report/

    To paraphrase from the article:

    After the 15 boxes of missing documents were retrieved in January, the DOJ and FBI suspected that all documents had not been returned and issued a subpoena ahead of their June visit with Trump's lawyers at Mar-a-Lago. During that visit the DOJ and FBI requested that the closet used to store said documentation be better secured. Trump's lawyers responded by adding a lock to the door. Shortly after their visit the DOJ issued another subpoena for the security footaged from Mar-a-Lago.

    This is not contained in the article but we also now know that the FBI received a tip from an inside source that Trump and his lawyers had not turned over all White House documents. Here is a link that talks about this inside source:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/11/fbi-trump-classified-records-mar-a-lago

    Now to Trump's evolving story about the search warrant:

    https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...or-taking-classified-documents-to-mar-a-lago/

    Trump has been all over the place with excuses....first he said that he had been cooperating all along and that he was being persecuted. Turns out his lawyers had not been complying as Trump claimed. An inside source tipped off the FBI that the lawyers and Trump were not being forthcoming and still possessed documents even after signing off that they had. So the search warrant was not some far flung politically motivated injustice, but a necessary step given the dishonesty from Trump and his lawyers. Trump also claimed that the FBI planted materials. That said, Trump's attorney could have filed a motion with the courts disputing the search warrant and airing their grievances through the court system but no such claim has been made in court. Typical Trump....he can never back up his words with evidence. Next, Trump claimed that he had issued a blanket declassification order for all documents that he took. It is true that the President has wide authority when it comes to declassification.. However, a former president has no authority to declassify and in order to claim that they were declassified he will likely have to point to some kind of paper trail. This is so unprecedented that it would likely require a supreme court ruling. I have a hard time believing that they will rule in favor of a President claiming, after the fact that he declassified documents without some kind of documentation stating so.
    https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/11/could-trump-argue-declassified-documents/

    Most recently Trump claims that the documents were protected by attorney-client and executive privileges. So....to summarize...the search was illegal but they never filed a motion against it in court, the documents were "planted" and then they had actually been declassified all along and now they are protected by privilege. I know...it's head spinning.
     
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    seabrookcajun Founding Member

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    The Constitution also grants the President the power to pardon. Can the President pardon himself? I think most reasonable people would say no. That would run contrary to everything the Founding Fathers stood for. They were adamantly against anyone having that much power, essentially creating a king.

    Trump declaring that he declassified the documents is strictly an attempt to avoid prosecution. No one from his administration has come forward to verify his assertion that the documents were declassified while he was President.
     
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    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Check the news, that case happened long ago. No conviction. They are trying again and will end up with the same result. Fucking FBI agents led the "plan" to kidnap halfwitmer. Common knowledge man
     
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  10. LSUpride123

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    Why are you changing the topic. The SC made a definitive statement that congress must “explicitly” write a law on what the president most do with regards to Classified information otherwise, as they have not done so, then the Constitution gives him said authority. They made that pretty clear.

    Also, multiple members of Trumps team have said the exact opposite of what you claim.
     
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