FBI executes search warrant at Mar-a-Lago

Obfuscate, obscure, distract, deny, deflect. That's all you have because you can't validly defend.

 

this is in plain English and easy to find. under any other scenario an argument could always be had as to whether something had been declassified or not.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/11/could-trump-argue-declassified-documents/

"Merely proclaiming a document or group of documents declassified and doing nothing more would not suffice," Bradley Moss, a Washington, D.C.-based lawyer who works on national security cases, told PolitiFact.

Follow-through is required.

"He had to identify the specific documents he was declassifying, he needed to memorialize the order in writing for bureaucratic and historical purposes, and he needed to have staff physically modify the classification markings on the documents themselves," Moss said. "Until that was done, the documents, per the security classification procedures, still have to be handled, transmitted and stored as if they were classified."

 

It is utterly ABSURD to believe that trump automatically declassified SCI and other top secret documents merely by taking them home. We're supposed to believe that such secrets then went into the public domain, that it was suddenly OK for any tom, dick, and harry to view them or possess copies of them?

Of course we know that trumpians have swallowed absurdities since day one. And, yes, the word "absurdities" in that sentence can also be used as a euphemism for turds.

 

You know there are DOD directives. You can post that or post articles. Which do you think are more valid?

If what the article says is true, then there should be a corresponding directive. But you and the media alike seem to not be able to find such...

As I said, none of this is true.

However, I know you LARPers wont let it go so lets say "it must be recorded". You think Trump delegates this or is FORCED to fill out forms?

Do you think that is what the presidents job is? Filling out forms?

This is what we are talking about now. Filling out forms. FBI raid for "possibly" needing to fill out forms.

If any of you slowed down and though out your "theories" you would conclude they are dumb as shit.

 

Here is another scenario as to WHY presidents have such authority.

There is classified information that is not allowed to leave certain facilities / control rooms, like military operation data as an example.

Lets say the president is on vacation. Lets say a conflict breaks out near one of our deployments and there is some information the president needs to make the right decision.

Do you think the president needs to fill out the forms 1st to move said information from point A to point B? No. They say give me the information now and so it is done. He then proceeds to drone some goat fucker and goes back to sitting on the beach. There is no "follow-up" required on his part. If his staff fucks up, who do you think is to blame?

 

No

Absurdity.

Nobody is questioning the President's authority to move SCI documents from a secure location into another SECURE location. Which of course is how in the last few days of his presidency trump got the boxes.

But once again you're deliberately avoiding THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION.

WHY did trump still have SCI nuclear documents in his possession after he was advised/warned to return them and had made previous legal representations to the DOJ, FBI, and the National Archives that he held none?

 

Members of his OWN staff .... Mulvaney, his own Chief of Staff.... Milley, his own Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff... the people most likely to know... have said publicly that they never heard of trump's "standing order" that top secret documents would be declassified merely by taking them home. So, that's just ad hoc defensive bullshit.

 

Again, your "theory" implies Trump went to a secure location and took the documents. He doesnt do that. None of them do that.

1st, you are claiming unsupported theories. 2nd, even if true, Trump did not "box" this information up. Staff and lawyers did.

Again, even if we just said your LARP theory was accurate, you still dont have anything. His lawyers signed off on it. Not him. Period.

 

Here is another drop from ya'lls "logic"

If Forms are what is needed. Where is the form from the person manning the SCI documents stating Trump took the info?

Because when documents leave a facility wouldn't there be a log?

Surely this log would clear all this up.......

 

Why don't you post the DoD directive that directly addresses where a president can declassify something in private, with no others knowing or memorializing, especially something dealing with the most sensitive of info? here is another article. this one from an apparent trump loving side of things. pretty interesting reading.
https://vigourtimes.com/presidential-power-to-declassify-information-explained/