could you list the evidence in support of either claim? like one tiny iota of evidence the russians are involved at all?
So, you disagree with the Mueller Report which states that Russia engaged in a disinformation campaign to specifically help donald trump and harm Hillary Clinton? You disagree with the Mueller Report which states that trump's son met Russians in trump Tower specifically to receive dirt on Hillary Clinton? Was Bob Mueller lying? Did Hillary Clinton or the media instruct Bob Mueller to state those things? You are a relentless liar.
no of course not. every country with the means is doing this to every election. like for instance in election in belarus and serbia we are definitely secretly helping the candidate we want. i would be stunned if any election in the last 70 years didnt involve russians and chinese and israeli influence at the very least. those things were investigated by mueller and determined to not be collusion: "Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities" - mueller i think the media fooled you because of your lack of sophistication on how international poltics work. i have a degree in intl poli and law so maybe the fact that i am more well read on this helps me understand it so much better. oh they absolutely did that, but it turned out the lady didnt have shit so they left. the russians also paid a tiny amount for social media ads, hundreds of thousands. by contrast, mike bloomberg spent almost a billion and couldnt influence shit. the influece of the russians was effectively zero, and typical of any election. hillary bought a fake dossier from a foreigner and spread lies. like for instance that trump had a server connected to a russian bank. thats just made up bullshit.
i should note that not only are americans interfering in elections via overt propaganda networks like voice of america, which i really enjoy, we also secretly fund candidates and movement we favor, like juan guaido in venezuela and others all over the world, particularly in eastern europe and south and latin america. particularly nicaragua and bolivia etc. places with socialists and leftists in power. we would overthrow cuba if we could. we have tried. the russians do the same, as do the chinese, eupoeans of various types, everyone who can afford it. it is nothing new. what would have been truly a stunning relevation is if russia did not try to influence our elections.
i like to back up my assertions with facts here is the story about the made up bank server shit from hillary https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/20/politics/hillary-clinton-robby-mook-fbi/index.html "Hillary Clinton personally approved her campaign’s plans in fall 2016 to share information with a reporter about an uncorroborated alleged server backchannel between Donald Trump and a top Russian bank, her former campaign manager testified Friday in federal court." the story was a lie. hillary was lying about connections between trump and russia that did not exist.
furthermore, the columbia journalism review published a long explanation of how the press and hillary workled together with the govt to spread the russia hoax https://www.cjr.org/special_report/trumped-up-press-versus-president-part-1.php "By 2016, as Trump’s political viability grew and he voiced admiration for Russia’s “strong leader,” Clinton and her campaign would secretly sponsor and publicly promote an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory that there was a secret alliance between Trump and Russia. The media would eventually play a role in all that" the reporter that wrote that is a former new york times writer, a pulitzer prize winner.
I’ve asked you this before and you never answer me…you just become enraged and tell me I can’t ask this question but….whose side are you on? You keep pretending that the work we are doing in the name of democracy and spreading our values to the world is the same that Putin and the Russians are doing or what any authoritarian regime is doing. It’s not.
sorry i wont answer questions when they come with a lie that i am "enraged". its a game i dont play. you should realize that this technique of telling people they are angry is stupid.
