i dont, those examples are really meant to be generic. the difference is whether the original thing was wrong. our foreign policy wasnt wrong. when we, fopr example station men too close to holy lands, that isnt actually bad, yunno, because holy lands dont exist. or when we support israel, thats not actually bad enough to warrant terrorism. and these are the sort of reasons terrorists give for their attacks.
Complete BS. Our Foreign policy, such as supporting Israel or stationing troops in Saudi may be used as an excuse for a particular terrorist act but its still BS. Stopping those activities would not suddenly defrock us as the "great satan". And the existence of radical islam, and expansion thereof(that's the goal), does not tolerate the "great satan" regardless of what we do or not. Islamic terrorist attacks upon us will stop when we either adopt islamic law or eradicate it's radical followers. But keep spouting your isolationism.
Yeah, but in that case, martin broke the law by riding his bike under the influence (depending on the influence) and killing said broad. Then the husband broke the law by assaulting martin. Apologizing here would be entirely okay. The US hasn't broken any laws by stationing troops abroad with the expressed permission of Middle Eastern countries such as Bahrain, Qatar, and Kuwait (which was one of the initial reasons for the hatred of the US). Cartoonists aren't breaking any laws by drawing caricatures of Mohammed. Maybe it's offensive, but does that mean responding by killing people who haven't broken any laws is okay? That's my issue. Sure, the US has made mistakes. But apologizing for past US transgressions - if you ask me - is giving THEM the upper hand because we are bowing to their will. I'm pretty sure the US didn't get to where it did in only two centuries by bowing to the will of others...in fact it did by doing exactly the opposite. Why change strategies now?
ok, it wasnt the best example. but many do think that meddling in the internal affairs of a sovereign nation is wrong. i see it as all part of a big chess game, but many here would be more than ticked if iran was found to be manipulating domestic US gov. you might be right. id argue that old (perceived) wrongs created a perception that is tough to change. again, you may be right, but why arent they attacking all infidel countries? is it just chance that the countries most targeted are the major players in the middle east? first of all, the cartoon thing is in a different class. it is completely crazy. there are irrational loons everywhere. besides, i dont think al qaeda would have been created because of cartoons, it just adds fuel to the fire. second, yes the martin story wasnt the best. perhaps if he wasnt drunk but killed a 6yr old that was jaywalking outside of school. then it happened again. kids are always jaywalking outside that school. then again. never martin's fault. at what point does martin change his route? or does he never because it is never his fault. im no historian so i cant really say what the us shouldve done differently. but the whole situation of having a heavy hand in the middle east has a bad odor of greed and imperialism. you combine that heavy hand with a different religion and poverty and what you see is what you get. you can obstinately only worry about blame and keep getting black eyes or make some changes to stop getting those black eyes regardless of ethics. this problem isnt going away anytime soon. i recommend, in addition to current anti-terrorism efforts, that the us start accepting more students from muslim countries and make them go back to their home countries afterward.
You will never get it. This has been going on for years. When I went to USL nearly, 40 years ago, you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a muslim. You cannot "educate" or "indoctrinate" islamic radicals. They are born hating us, they die hating us, and they hate us the entire time in between.
i didnt say the us hasnt been letting muslims in. i said they should let in more. i also said they should have an agreement to return to their home country. the students should be from problem countries, btw. i think you can educate islamic radicals, but thats not my point. i think by having more cultural interaction you will decrease the creation of more radicals.
