I love when people throw out the Gruden suggestion. It lets me know immediately not to take them seriously.
Yes it is! And I do credit the coach when things go well or poorly, at least to an extent. In Miles case, there is a lingering doubt that we were winning in spite of him (to some degree) early in his career at LSU. This has been known to happen at other programs when a strong coach is replaced. But that is a different argument. Every pro and con that happens this year definitely goes back to the head man. Sloppy play indicates a lack of preparation. Mental miscues indicate that for some reason the coach did not successfully instill the desired fundamentals. Nothing ridiculous about this at all. Some teams are definitely better coached than others, in fact, it can mean the difference in a win and a loss in an evenly matched game. Like has been brought up before, its not about the record. His record is obviously the best record in the time span he's achieved it in the history of LSU. LSU fans have proven we can have relatively reasonable expectations, we weren't running Saban off even though his record was worse than Miles. Its the data outside of the W/L column that has many of us concerned and a majority in the college football community unimpressed. We've got a Fulmer-type situation on our hands. Tennessee was a solid program under him, but I think he held them back and always gave his opponents a better chance to win than a stronger coach would have. I feel the same about Miles.
only when Miles is the coach. have you heard anybody attribute the 6764975634 bad snaps Florida had last week to Urban Meyer not "instilling the desired fundamentals"? of course not, because it's a ridiculous thought. these kids were taught to do their job a certain way and did not execute. why? because it's their 1st game of the year. some at new positions, some 1st game ever. some have never felt this kind of pressure before, etc. etc.
What the hell is the difference between Miles and Saban for Miles to be dogged by doubters where Saban wasn't? Matters outside the W/L record, obviously. UF is a season removed from the NC and losing one of the most celebrated college football players ever. Meyer has won two with existing talent and with the talent he brought in himself. Miles got a lot of leeway the year following his NC and a lot has (and hasn't) happened since then.
If I thought I was wrong I would probably admit it, but I don't, and I do believe you to be incredibly miserable. Most people that are perpetually whining about a football team not "inspiring" them are regarded that way. Glad you denied it. I am sure everyone believes you. You know... because you said it. :hihi: Oh so now you see the difference between your position and a personal attack. Glad I only had to point it out 3 times before you got it. :thumb: That is because you have a limited mental capacity. You think Miles fails completely and have stated so repeatedly. Therefore anyone that disagrees with you must believe that Miles succeeds completely. That is not too bright. Since you have claimed Miles has limited(if any) ability, and has sunk the team in the last few years, and Saturday showed you a continuation of the same, and yet....you still hope for a different outcome? Yes Einstein called people like you insane. I'm with the smart guy on this one. That's funny. I have done that all my life, through good times and bad. All the real fans I know have done the same. I don't feel a need for the performance or lack of it by some 20 year old kids to dictate the rise and fall of my voice in Tiger stadium, or anywhere else. True fans see the difference. What would that be? Win some football games? Games you are not playing in? Geez, are you stoned or what? You obviously didn't do any comparisons last Saturday or you would see that teams like Florida, USC, Oklahoma, and on and on had very similar disjointed performances. But that doesn't fit your "LSU inspirational" model, so you will dismiss it. :insane:
So is this or isn't this a personal attack? It seems like your saying it isn't? Can I get a definition from Einstein on this one? I never said Miles fails completely. And I am left to assume your argument regarding Miles when your only argument is calling me stupid. I still love LSU football and am open to being wrong. I let loose my opinion, participate in conversations about it, admit when I'm wrong. I don't see anything wrong with that. I just might be well ahead of you on the curve of understanding the true situation of our team, though. So a long TD run doesn't move you? Huh. I wonder what it is you get out of college football. Drankin, community, great food? Nothing wrong with that, I suppose. Especially if you are yelling your fool head off all game. Some other teams struggled in the opening weekend? I'm utterly shocked. Doesn't change my opinion, which I think I've explained in too much detail, probably.
Winning isn't the only thing that matters, Red. Yeah, I'd say ultimately W/L is the most important stat, but it damn sure isn't the only one. I posted some specifics earlier in this thread. Saban was more popular during his career here than Miles is, Miles is getting more criticism and isn't as highly regarded in the college football community. Do you deny this? Miles has the better record, so what gives? I think this makes it OBVIOUS that something other than W/L record matters to people. Can you not follow that line of thought? I know you can, I guess you just don't want to.
Let's see? I called you miserable. You called me a snarky mofo. Hmm. yeah I can see why you are obsessed with the personal attack thing. Doubt you are going to get the conclusion you want, but keep after it scooter. Pointing out your stupidity in needing to be "inspired" by this team requires little more than calling you stupid. It's not rocket science. You also admitted to getting down on Miles rather quickly after he got here, and it not being mitigated until he won a NC. Despite him winning 11+ games the two years before and finishing in the Top 10. Yeah, that's sane. Some people are so far behind, they actually think they are leading the race. Entertainment, excitement, joy. I get the same thing out of a roller coaster ride, or a really good sandwich. Inspiration? No, so far you are the only one I have heard levy that expectation at Miles' feet. Most people are more grounded than that. Because you are incapable of applying your standard to other teams. And you said comparing LSU to other top programs was very important to you. It's a double standard that is common amongst Miles haters. I expect nothing more from you.
