Exercising your right of speech…now illegal…who know?

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by Bud Lee, May 21, 2012.

  1. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    So do I. Schools still have landlines. Why isn't that an option?
     
  2. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    I suppose it is. I guess I should add that I want to be able to reach my child. Seems they can find a moment at some point to check their phones (between classes, lunch, bathroom, etc). I have sent them texts for things like "I will drop off your ____) before 10am or whatever. Also, if a Columbine were to happen, I want them to pull that sucker out and call me. Don't tell me the odds are too low for that. There are a couple kids from Mandeville in jail right now who admitted to wanting to do a Columbine last year at Lakeshore HS in Mandeville.

    Sure kids might use them to cheat. We used notes and other technology of the day. Cheaters cheat, most don't. The cheaters just use the technology of the day.
     
  3. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Hey bud, if you want to be Super Parent take care of all that shit the night before. :D

    If one of your daughters ever got pics taken of her half dressed in a locker room and thrown up on the net you may feel differently but I get what you're saying.

    If there's ever a Columbine schools have crisis management plans. You can throw all them away. I've been at a school in which we had several anthrax/bomb threats called in. Kids use those fucking cell phones that don't have service to dial 911. Did you know that was possible? Oh, and you can't trace them. Anyway, people were everywhere. Parents coming on campus, kids being taken from the football field (where we evacuated) by parents, others just walking home. Total chaos the first time. By the third time they could've blown us all up cause we were like, "Not this shit again".
     
  4. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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  5. Bud Lee

    Bud Lee Call me buttercup

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    They have the exact same rights as adults when it comes to the right to assemble and protest.



    Actually…yeah they can…they have a right to protest. Now it may not be as simple as that because there may be some time restraints and some other issues... but the right exist none the less. That is if it is a public school of course.


    You’re right….the questions are not as simple as you are trying to make them sound. The classic one here in Louisiana that comes up just about every other exam is on a student’s right to express themselves. The question normally involves a religious nut and kid that loves their mom, and a principle that is going a little too far to keep the peace at the upcoming graduation. The students are warned not to do anything that may be obscene, may distract people from the ceremony or anything that may not be appropriate for the event but he/she fails to give examples of such conduct. The girl does the sign of the cross and the guy blows his mom a kiss….this results in the principle punishing the kids…then others graduates in the parish elect to protest and they get punished.


    The answer is loooooooong but basically the principle and school board's actions fail to pass the appropriate level of scrutiny.


    Anopther popular one features a student that wears a t-shirt or some symbol to school to express their opinion on some issue….this also ends up failing as long as the school doesn’t have a uniform policy that is not deemed too restrictive or vague, or of course if the school is a private school.


    There are more examples…but I’ll stop there. All of it is based on an few famous supreme court cases, such as one involving a students’ a right to protest the Vietnam war by wearing a black arm band and the another about a principle not allowing a kid to where a “Jesus smokes pot” t-shirt to school (or some school function…can’t remember exactly).


    And martin, I’m not saying the teacher telling the student to shut up was the possible constitutional issue, and once again I’m not saying that she was impeding on his rights. My issue with her is how she is carried herself in the classroom and the fact that she is so far from base when it comes to the truth, her and teachers like her are a BIG problem...BUT….if the scenario was tweaked a little there could be a constitutional violation. Look at what she is telling her student, she is saying that in her class there will be no disrespecting the president. Thus, she would be a state actor telling a citizen that they cannot speak on a particular subject matter. This by definition is a constitutional issue. For what it is worth, I believe there is no violation here, but by tweaking the scenario a bit it could be…and that my friend is all I was saying.
     
  6. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    why u dam crimminal.


    I was always told that, can you ask your wife.
     
  7. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    Will do. She is out of town til monday.
     
  8. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    Freedom of speech is not free from consequence, even in the face of an ignorant superior...
     
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    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    Kids have been carrying cell phones for years now and I have yet to even hear of this happening. IMO, it's for the same reason why people in the NFL don't try to actually hurt each other. The odds are too great that the favor will be returned. Girls aren't snapping pics of other girls because they're concerned the embarrassment might happen to them. Guys aren't snapping pics of girls because they're not allowed in the locker room.

    The good reasons for my daughter carrying a cell phone FAR outweigh the bad...
     
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