Defendants do destroy documents. Evidence is excluded all the time. I’m not saying it won’t be heard on the record, but it’s possible that it won’t be, and that’s why it was leaked. Having all of this evidence leaked is kind of a weak link within the Justice department.
“Can you see the issue now? As aresult, the audio is nothing more-than President Trump talking about something the prosecution cannot identify or prove. It’s inadmissible, hence no value, hence the leak” if that’s funny, this should be hilarious…. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-m...derlying-charges-in-trump-federal-indictment/ Iran memo not among the 31 records underlying charges in Trump federal indictment Updated on: June 27, 2023 / 7:45 PM By Andres Triay, Catherine Herridge, Robert Legare / CBS News Washington — The Defense Department memo on Iran — at the heart of the now-public audio recording that captured a July 2021 meeting with former President Donald Trump — is not part of the 31 counts of willful retention of national defense information charged in special counsel Jack Smith's indictment of the former president, a source familiar with the matter confirmed to CBS News. In the recording of the meeting at Trump's Bedminster, New Jersey golf club, the former president can be heard apparently showing and discussing what he described as "highly confidential, secret" documents with aides. Sources say the documents were related to plans for a potential U.S. attack on Iran. "It is like highly confidential, secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this," Trump said in the audio tape obtained by CBS News. "See, as president I could have declassified, but now I can't, you know…Isn't that interesting? It's so cool." 37-count indictment against Trump includes 31 charges of willfully retaining national defense information. It generally outlines each of the 31 classified records that prosecutors allege Trump illegally kept, without naming the exact subject matter. The Iran memo is not part of the list of the 31 records in the indictment, the source said. Throughout the years-long federal investigation into Trump's White House records, investigators have collected more than 300 documents with classified markings on them — including 103 seized during the execution of a search warrant at Trump's Florida residence last year. Multiple sources familiar with the investigation previously told CBS News that defense attorneys were not certain the Iran memo in question was ever recovered and returned to the government. Still, the 2021 incident is one of two instances referenced in the indictment, in which Smith describes Trump allegedly showing national defense information to individuals without proper clearance. Trump can be heard in the audio apparently acknowledging he had a sensitive record after he left office and no longer had the power to declassify it. On Tuesday, Fox News asked Trump about the recording and he insisted he "did nothing wrong." "My voice was fine," Trump told Fox News. "What did I say wrong in those recordings? I didn't even see the recording. All I know is I did nothing wrong. We had a lot of papers, a lot of papers stacked up. In fact, you could hear the rustle of the paper. And nobody said I did anything wrong." And in another interview, Trump told Semafor and ABC News that he did not have any sensitive records, calling his discussion captured on the recording "bravado." "I just held up a whole pile of — my desk is loaded up with papers. I have papers from 25 different things," he said. The existence of the audio tape and the July 2021 meeting was first reported by CNN, which was also first to obtain a recording of the discussion. Sources familiar with the matter said that the discussion of the allegedly classified document arose as Trump was talking about Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Milley, who had been portrayed in a story in The New Yorker as having fought in the last days of the Trump administration to keep the president from attacking Iran. In the recording of the meeting, the former president tells those with him the document discredited any criticism against him. Smith's office declined to comment. Earlier this month, Trump pleaded not guilty to a total of 37 counts, which included conspiracy to obstruct justice. Prosecutors allege he and an aide, Waltine Nauta, worked to move boxes containing classified records throughout Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort. Nauta was set to be arraigned in a Miami federal court on Tuesday, but flight troubles and difficulty securing local legal counsel delayed the hearing until next week.
I love it how all of you think we are going to litigate this case here in FSA. The charges are what they are, the recording is what it is. It looks like there will be a trial in December to test all these borderline legal theories that never seem to pan out. I’m not going to respond to every one of them because it’s pointless to do so. I have 100% confidence in our judicial system to give Trump a fair trial. I also have a lot of confidence that Jack Smith has the goods on Trump in a way that is overwhelming becaus that is what every objective legal scholar says. Again, I listen to the experts.
How many times has anything panned out with regards to trying to put Trump in jail? Fact is, every time we here with our "borderline legal theories" challenge the next in line Trump scandal, we always right. But sure. Maybe this IS the one. Just like: Russia gate Ukraine Biden laptop Covid The experts told you to think wrong on all of those. These are just the recent ones. By listening to experts, you mean you dont have the capabilities to process information for yourself and that is ok. It is not for everyone. Though, this is a discussion forum for those kinds of people. Being that when challenged with difficult information you revert to leaning on experts, why bother here? Just read your articles and call it a day.
please share some of this “objective “ legal scholar opinion as I’ve not seen an objective legal opinion yet. All I’ve seen is that the tape proves that trump’s guilty…. jus’ for fun, do you have an opinion regarding the documents in question?
You don’t even realize that none of the political investigation you listed ever had the teeth to send Trump to jail. I can’t help you understand these most basic facts but I know you’ve been told. The worst thing Trump could have faced would have been impeachment and found guilty in the Senate and forced from office. This is the first time that he has faced the prospect of real consequences. I’ve told you this all along but you have failed to listen.
Yes I am under the opinion that federal investigators conducted a long and thorough investigation that not even Trumps own lawyers have called unfair or politically motivated and were able to present enough evidence to a grand jury in the heart of Trump country that they voted to indict him. I am also under the opinion that the indictment spelled out the charges against Trump accurately as well as evidence to support those charges….Trumps lawyers haven’t claimed the indictment didn’t contain adequate evidence. I hear noise from right wing channels whose defense in the documents case changes from day to day. But I’ve yet to hear a single bogus legal theory that will work…just like the Indeoendent State Legislature theory that was smacked down by the Supreme Court yesterday.
