ex-president trump last night said he was entitled

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  1. Rex

    Rex Founding Member

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    You're obviously too stupid to understand that you just tacitly admitted your "standing order" claim was bullshit.

    And what you just posted is yet another case of a stupidly pointless thing to say. Sure, declassifying something doesn't require a written action, nor a spoken action, but absent those it would require an action of disclosure, you hopeless idiot, which HE DIDN'T DO as president. Merely transporting classified materials from one location to another didn't declassify them, as he himself understands and admitted. Politifact outlines three court precedents which debunks your "he can classify things just by thinking about it" bullshit:

    Madison Project v. US Department of Justice
    New York Times and Matthew Rosenberg v. Central Intelligence Agency
    Leopold v. Department of Justice

    https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/sep/23/could-donald-trump-declassify-documents-with/
     
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  2. Rex

    Rex Founding Member

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    More evidence that the orange scumbag was never fit to be in the White House. From another public appearance, this time the Brett Baier interview on Fox:

    Trump brags to Bret Baier about granting Alice Johnson clemency. Baier informs him that she would be killed under his policy proposal of executing drug dealers. Trump is caught off guard: "No, no. No. Under my pl–. Under that? UHHHHHHHHHHH..."

    Want another glimpse of a scumbag lunatic? Catch this:

    https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1671291632824778752?
     
  3. Jmg

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    you sure do post a lot of twitter links for a guy who doesnt use twitter
     
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    at this point you need to ask why the special counsel leaked the audio of the tape to cnn…. for what reason?

    here’s the thing: the audio proves nothing. It is the sound of President Trump talking about presidential papers that are claimed by the DOJ to be “classified” or “secret.”
    despite your most heartfelt wishes the audio will NEVER be used at trial – if there is even a trial – which is highly unlikely, because it cannot be admitted into evidence.
    That’s why Jack Smith gave it to them. The audio is useless, except for the value in promoting the lawfare narrative
    Why? Because the documents that are claimed to be heard in the audio are nowhere to be found. That’s right, the DOJ and FBI never found any “classified” or “super-secret” documents as described in the audio. As a result, the audio represents nothing, because without the documents the audio is inadmissible.
    You cannot submit evidence in court of a person talking about documents without the documents the audio is supposedly talking about.
    Can you see the issue now? As a result, the audio is nothing more than President Trump talking about something the prosecution cannot identify or prove. It’s inadmissible, hence no value, hence the leak
     
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  5. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    No, he can't see that.
     
  6. BAY0U BENGAL

    BAY0U BENGAL I'm a Chinese Bandit

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    Because they have no idea how courts and the law work
     
  7. Rex

    Rex Founding Member

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    That's some funny stuff right there.
     
  8. Jmg

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    yeah. "lol".

    sayimg stuff is funny rather than making a counterpoint is one of the ways you deflect.
     
  9. BAY0U BENGAL

    BAY0U BENGAL I'm a Chinese Bandit

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    He doesn’t have one
     
  10. Rex

    Rex Founding Member

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    His post is absurd.

    Where do I begin?

    What sort of moron would assume Jack Smith leaked the audio? There's no evidence that he did that, and no reason to presume he did.

    That right there destroys his entire post ALREADY... but I'll go further:

    Even IF the prosecution doesn't have that exact document that trump was talking about, there is NO WAY the tape will be excluded from the trial. You want to know why? Because there obviously were witnesses to the conversation in the room, and you can bet your bottom dollar that Smith has already obtained their testimony about what precisely he was holding. And you can bet that there are also copies in the DOD's possession. And, aside from ALL THAT, the audiotape is not all that important for one specific document, anyway. It will be used as evidence for trump's ownership understanding of ALL the classified documents he kept in his possession.

    And let's think just for a second how absurd his argument is... if what he says is true than any defendant anywhere can just destroy or hide evidence to escape punishment. For example, if somebody is accused of stealing a gold ring, and there's an audiotape of himself admitting to taking it, he'd never be held accountable just so long as he keeps it hidden. His is an absurd premise, from somebody who doesn't understand how law works.

    Yes, his post is comical. Laughable wishful thinking.
     
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