Ex Cardinal Jack Clark blasts Mark McGwire

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  1. Richdog

    Richdog 02 Cecilia alumni champs

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    McGwire hit 49 homers as a rookie. he was skinny as a rookie.
    Steroids does make you stonger (if you work out), but it's used alot to heal your body. I was given steroids when i was in the hospital recovering from crohn's disease as an 18 yr old. I was down to 80 lbs then. I'm not at 80 now! :)

    I want to know why football players aren't being questioned about steroids. There is no way you can tell me that football players aren't taking this. 6ft 3in 280 lbs...and runs a 4.7 40 yd dash??? please!
     
  2. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    I bold-faced the important part of the statement. My point is, while the 'roids may have helped him hit home runs, they did not give him the hand-eye coordination it takes to consistently make solid contact with a ball pitched by a major league pitcher. If the only attributed needed to hit home runs were strength, every team would go out and sign a Mr. Universe candidate as a Designated Hitter. Its the natural hitting skills McGwire was born with/developed through practice, regardless of steroids, that make him qualified to be a hitting coach.

    BTW, check this out...its from Wikipoedia's entry on late MLB hitting coach Charlie Lau:
    In his own book, ML'er Jay Johnstone said most players think Lau knew more about hitting than any man of his time. Yet in his playing career, Lau was a .255 hitter. Playing and coaching are mutually exclusive skills.

    I'm not defending Mac's use. I'm merely saying 'roids alone don't make a home run hitter.

    edit: had to check....Jack Clark was a career .267 batter. Not exactly the last word on hitting.
     
  3. HatcherTiger

    HatcherTiger Freedom Isn't Free

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  4. HatcherTiger

    HatcherTiger Freedom Isn't Free

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    I agree and have posted this elsewhere. By taking steroids McGuire and the others have deprived themselves of ever being judged legitimately. And they only have themselves to blame.
     
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Jack Clark, wow, blast from the past, i saw this guy hit the moosehead sign that was way behind the green monster in fenway. Jack Clark either hit the ball out of the atmosphere, or struck out, but gave the crowd a nice breeze when he did.


    On topic now, I think Jack Clark is exactly right but i don't think it has anything to do with the USE of steroids. When you are talking about your job, and using chemicals that doctors prescribe you to make your game better, i have absolutely no problem with that. But my problem with McGwire is the lying over, and over and over, and is still lying about it. I mean for him to say that roids had nothing to do with the spike in his numbers is absolutely the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard.

    Ive heard all the arguments about steroids, and i think they should be allowed, but i think MC and maybe Mobius put it to me in a way i have never read before, but they need to do something about the rules involving this drug. If a doctor can safely prescribe steroids to an athlete for rehabbing injury, shouldn't that be allowed?
     
  6. LSUGradin99

    LSUGradin99 I Bleedeth Purple 'N Gold

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    He claims he used them for similar reasons. But if not for roids, then he probably would not have been healthy and strong for so long. The cheating lengthened his career (and allowed him to play more games each season) and thus allowed him to hit more home runs.
     
  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    what i want to know is if Roids didn't help him, where in the hell was his career before he went to St. Louis. There were some years there that he just disappeared. He can talk about his home runs and all that from little league up to the Oakland A's, but McGwire only did this because that is what was required of him to get that job, and he gave the public a little lie with some admittance to use of steroids, then begs and pleads with the reporters to just drop it, so everyone can get over it.

    I agree everyone should get over, but this dude is a sleazeball.
     
  8. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    not all steroids are created equal. you are confusing corticosteriods with anabolic steriods. you likely had corticosteriods to treat crohn's because they reduce inflammation.
     

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