ESPN tries to murder LSU....

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  1. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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  2. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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    Good...it was pretty embarrassing...for you.
     
  3. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    Here is the other viewpoint which address some of the other factors never mentioned by Oversigning.com and ESPN, etc...

    Oversigning Redux - And The Valley Shook

    When discussing Porter this article failed to mention that the NCAA changed the rules on counting players back after NSD. We would have been right at the number we needed to be at even with Zach Lee not leaving for the MLB assuming Porter stayed after Wing was cleared. But since Zach left after Spring practice started we were not allowed by the NCAA to give Fordham and Porter their Fall Scholarship back.
     
  4. Herb

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    Back to Chris Garrett for a minute. He is trying to walk on at Ole Miss...smart move?


    • Jeremiah Masoli (Oregon thug xfer) is the current starter
    • West Virginia backup QB Barry Brunetti is transferring to Ole Miss
    • Zack Stoudt - the #2 JUCO QB in the nation behind Mettenberger and son of former NFL and USFL QB Cliff Stoudt is transferring to Ole Miss
    • Maikhail Miller, 3 star QB from Fulton Mississippi, is committed to OLE Miss
    He thought LSU had a logjam at QB?

    Good luck, dude.
     
  5. Fishhead

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    Masoli is done. He has no more eligibility.
     
  6. gynojunkie

    gynojunkie "Pooties R Us"

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    Excellent summation! Thanks for that!
     
  7. lsudolemite

    lsudolemite CodeJockey Extraordinaire

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    It goes to the point of college football being a business. A hotel with 500 rooms vacant on any given day is not going to stop taking reservations when they get to 500. An airline with a plane having a capacity of 100 passengers doesn't stop booking the flight when they sell 100 tickets. People do no-show or cancel for various reasons, and without overselling there is an unnecessary loss of revenue. It's simply smart business. As a result, the occasional person doesn't get their room (which has happened to me) or their flight. It's inconvenient and annoying, but nobody gets kicked out on the street, they adapt to the situation, often working out alternate arrangements with that business, and if all else fails, take it elsewhere. Life goes on.

    Similarly, not every athlete that gets a schollie to play college ball makes the grades to get in. Sorry, but I'm with Fish on this one. Kids in these situations either grayshirt or earn a schollie at another school. Nobody's getting left out in the cold. If that happened on a regular basis, no athlete would ever want to play for a coach who operated like that. If a kid has the ability and talent, chances are he'll find another school, albeit not his first choice. It would be wonderful if I could complain to the national media and have them publish a hit piece every time someone promised me something and never delivered. That's life.
     
  8. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    NCAA bylaw that limits coaches to 28 signees says you're wrong.

    It's a problem, it's been acknowledged, and ultimately, it's wrong.

    Exceeding this number works well for programs, clearly, but who's to say which NCAA rules we can pick & choose to follow? What's the next one we play off as, "Oh well, it's business."

    I guess I do business differently though cause I have NEVER been turned down a room reserved- course, I have them guaranteed with a CC. I don't operate on if's, and's or but's. If I say I'm going to do something, I will and if I shake on it you can take that to the bank.
     
  9. Fishhead

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    Must be great that nothing like Janzen Jackson/Ryan Perrilloux/Derrick Odom ever happens to a fine upstanding citizen such as yourself...:rolleye33:

    If you don't understand yet why there's oversigning, you never will. As stated, the RP/JJ/DO type stuff happens FAR more than Miles having to tell a kid "sorry, no room in the inn". Instead of looking at the positive side of things, and noticing that EVERY SINGLE RECRUIT Miles has brought in the last couple of years has qualified, you choose to look only at the negative. Yet I'd be willing to bet Miles is learning that, if you recruit high character guys, you can get good football players that will not only make it to campus, but will stay. But even after he figures that out, there will still be a legitimate reason to oversign a tad. Peterson and Ridley are good examples. Right here at the last minute before NSD, he finds out he's without a running back and corner back that were supposed to be here another year. Your argument is akin to me or someone else villifying THEM...and I haven't heard ANYONE throw them under the bus. But what's the difference in Miles telling a kid there's no room, and a kid telling Miles "thanks for the coaching and training, I'm leaving early to go make my millions"?

    Every bit of logic and reason has been put in this thread for you to understand, yet you refuse to, probably in an effort to stir chit. Sadly, a bunch of us fall for it.
     
  10. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Maybe it's a race thing??


    Oh I understand why, just as I understand why someone would give Cam $180K. Understanding why isn't the problem, it's recognizing there's a limit and exceeding it to the point that a kid who signed with LSU in February, qualified academically, reported to summer school in June and started taking classes then after two months as a member of the LSU football family, getting summoned from his dorm room to Les Miles' office to hear that he wasn't par. As I said when I entered, he wasn't given the "annual eval", didn't make it a year before getting his scholly pulled.





    Well I always keep it lite and have fun regardless of whether my opinion is popular or not but I honestly don't buy into this horseshyt and don't think just cause most SEC fans do that the rest of the country does.

    Like I said, it works but so does corking a bat.

    Big Ten victimized by oversigning elsewhere - Big Ten Blog - ESPN




    Scout.com: Oversigning...............
     

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