ESPN tries to murder LSU....

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  1. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    herb, you know i respect you, so i hope you dont take offense to the following critique....

    saying "you hate us" sounds whiny and will likely cause the factual part of your letter lose credibility.

    when sending emails like this, it needs to be treated as a business letter keeping emotion out of it and sticking to the facts. facts such as change of rules after nsd caused the need to cut a position and porter was asked to grayshirt. he has since, of his own desire, come back to lsu as a walk on.

    garrett needed to do some things to keep his scholarship. this was even mentioned by miles in pressers. if you look at the pictures of his weight progression while at lsu, it is obvious that he was not putting in the time and effort required in strength and conditioning required of a quarterback at ANY division i program, much less the sec where defenses are brutal on quarterbacks. if garrett was not willing to uphold his end of the bargain and do what was asked of him, it is obvious there was no choice to to revoke his scholarship. the story was obviously taken from a disgruntled kid with an axe to grind, and with no effort taken to look into the facts of why he was dismissed.

    you pointed out some good facts. but bringing emotion into it is going to cause the email to not being taken seriously.

    just my two cents worth.
     
  2. Lil Jules

    Lil Jules Founding Member

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    Agree with this.

    Also, the article was in SI, not ESPN.
     
  3. Herb

    Herb Founding Member

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    Taken as intended. Thanks for the constructive criticism.

    And I indeed brain farted on the whole ESPN/SI thing.
     
  4. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Not sure how accurate this is but his article stems from the oversigning.com site. It reports three schools having accepted 10 more verbals than scholarships available then LSU with the next highest number at 9.

    Ole Miss +10
    Alabama +10
    USC +10
    LSU +9





    We aren't really going to classify a weekend stay being equal to a kid's means towards receiving an education are we?


    It is a somewhat mitigating circumstance but it's like being pregnant as a result of an act of love with a husband, a one night stand with a stranger, or a forceful act from a rapist...still pregnant.
     
  5. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    I like the concept of Oversigning.com but really limited. Numbers are inaccurate and they act like this is some kind of new practice by college teams. Just the new fad to talk about IMO been going on for years. They are using strict numbers and not taking many other factors into account.
     
  6. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    But the kids, Bhelm. My God..THE KIDS. :cry:
     
  7. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    i started to say, if there are gonna be kids that are gonna transfer, or not be back due to grades (i hope the latter isnt the case) then the coach knows about that and has to take that into account. he cant be left holdin the bag simply because of numbers he knows arent gonna be the same a month from now.
     
  8. Fishhead

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    Until Peterson and Ridley decided to forego their senior season. If you don't know the truth, I think it might be better to do some more research into the situation.

    LSU, IF they sign 23 this year as expected, will need to lose 7 more to attrition. Not nine. I know you visit TOS, so you might wanna go check their recruiting board. There's a thread entitled something like "Number Crunching". It's accurate.

    Since you seem to be more interested in the student's side of things, maybe you can answer my question from earlier in the thread. What is the number of academic scholarships that are revoked for violating the terms of the CONTRACT that is a scholarship? Are the students notified in advance that their academic scholly is being pulled? (aside from the frickin terms of the CONTRACT) Just curious...really. I'd love to see those numbers, compared to those of the football team.

    A ridiculous assessment of the situation. There is a very significant difference between all 3 of these. The first is an honorable and blessed occurence. The second is an oops/mistake. The third is a travesty of justice/intentional felony criminal act.

    That's my problem with this whole thing. LSU/Miles are being portrayed as the rapists...and they're not. Most of it is honorable, some of it is oops. None of it is rape.
     
  9. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    I'd prefer letting you do that. I quoted a published article and even left a disclaimer.



    At least we agree on two of the three reasons for oversigning not being good- you're slowly coming around to my way of thinking.

    And I'd add that if I can get you to see two of three on the first try that it's a pretty good assessment.
     
  10. Fishhead

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    The problem is, you said it's "still pregnant", as if it's all the same. It's not. And one of the two that you claim we agree on, we don't. That 'oops' is sometimes on the student athlete, like, 'Oops, I stole a laptop/smoked some weed/failed my classes'. Do any of these articles mention THOSE situations? Of course not. Yet those situations are FAR more common than the 'oops' situations like 'Oops, I oversigned thinking this guy wasn't gonna qualify, but he did and now I don't have room for Porter'. The fact that the student initiated 'oops' moments are more prevelant is the very reason why oversigning exists.

    So no, we don't agree...at all. Don't kid yourself. :thumb:

    And as to the article, it's factually true. But in typical ESPN fashion, they leave out the part about Ridley and Peterson being included in that number, even though they've already declared for the draft. In the case of Alabama, you can subtract Julio, Ingram, and Dareus as well. ESPN has a knack for telling half the story. Even though the half they tell is true and factual, they leave out the other half that disputes their agenda, even though it's equally true, and an important part of the equation.

    I'm beginning to think you do this because you're jealous of my fishing prowess. It isn't my fault you couldn't catch swine flu if you made out with a pig. Some people have it, (me), some don't. :wave:
     
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