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  1. Tiger_fan

    Tiger_fan Veteran Member

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    The BSC title game was one of the worst performances of his career, he even publically apologized for having such a bad game on his Twitter. But, it doesn't really matter, that was after the Heisman had already been awarded.

    As for keeping it real, i don't see how anybody in their right mind thinks TM7 deserved the Heisman last year, he was lucky to have even been invited to New York, and probably shouldn't have been. Look at the votes...

    Total Votes
    Player School 1st 2nd 3rd Total Points
    1. Robert Griffin III Baylor 405 168 136 1,687
    2. Andrew Luck Stanford 247 250 166 1,407
    3. Trent Richardson Alabama 138 207 150 978
    4. Montee Ball Wisconsin 22 83 116 348
    5. Tyrann Mathieu Louisiana State 34 63 99 327
     
  2. VampMuse

    VampMuse Veteran Member

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    Seriously? You don't see how he deserved it?

    Okay here you go, watch the video and realize it's 1 years worth

     
  3. VampMuse

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    To further go along with this, while you're watching realize he made the extraordinary look ordinary, so maybe that's why you don't think he's that great.

    How often are you seeing guys deflect a pass up in the air, catch it almost at full stride and take off?
    How many guys rip a fumble out of a guy and catch it in mid air?
    How many guys don't fuck up the scoop up the fumble on the ground and keep running?

    Like Les's quote, a lot of people have 1-2 of those plays a year. There were times he had 1-2 of them a game.
     
  4. GiantDuckFan

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    Mathieu's magic wins games,.. he's a very rare cat.
     
  5. Tiger_fan

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    also look how NFL Draft Scout ranks them as draft prospects:

    Kevin Minter -- #1 ILB for 2014 Draft (#2 is Georgia's Alec Olgetree, who was 2nd Team All-SEC by the coaches this year)
    Manti Te'o -- #1 ILB for 2013 Draft (#2 is Alabama's Nico Johson; #4 is Florida's Jon Bostic, who was 2nd Team All-SEC by the coaches this year)

    their career stats:

    Minter
    2010 -- 15 tackles (1.6% of team total), nothing else
    2011 -- 61 tackles (6.3% of team total), 3.5 TFL, 1.0 sacks, no QB hurries, no INT, 1 pass broken up, 1 forced fumble
    2012-- 111 tackles (13.6% of team total), 13.5 TFL, 3.0 sacks, 4 QB hurries, 1 INT, 5 passes broken up, 1 forced fumble
    2013 -- will he go pro or come back?

    T'eo
    2009 -- 63 tackles (8.1 % of team total), 5.5 TFL, 1.0 sacks, 1 QB hurry, no INT, 1 pass broken up, no forced fumbles
    2010 -- 129 tackles (13.5% of team total), 8.5 TFL, 1.0 sacks, 3 QB hurries, no INT, 3 passes broken up, 1 forced fumble
    2011 -- 128 tackles (13.4% of team total), 13.5 TFL, 5.0 sacks, 4 QB hurries, no INT, 2 passes broken up, 1 forced fumble
    2012 -- 103 tackles (12.9% of team total), 5.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks, 4 QB hurries, 7 INT, 4 passes broken up, no forced fumbles

    for comparison:

    TM7
    2010 -- 57 tackles (5.9% of team total), 8.5 TFL, 4.5 sacks, 1 QB hurry, 2 INT, 7 passes broken up, 5 forced fumbles
    2011 -- 76 tackles (7.8% of team total), 7.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks, 3 QB hurries, 2 INT, 9 passes broken up, 6 forced fumbles
    2012 -- kicked off team
    2013 -- going pro

    Jarvis Jones
    2009 -- at Southern Cal, 13 tackles, 1.5 TFL.... missed last 5 games of season due to neck sprain
    2010 -- redshirted after transferring from Southern Cal to Georgia
    2011 -- 70 tackles (8.5% of team total), 19.5 TFL, 13.5 sacks, 26 QB hurries, no INT, 2 passes broken up, 2 forced fumbles
    2012 -- 77 tackles (7.8% of team total), 22.5 TFL, 12.5 sacks, 19 QB hurries, 1 INT, 2 passes broken up, 7 forced fumbles
    2013 -- will he go pro or come back? he's rated the #1 OLB for the 2014 Draft by NFL Draft Scout (#2 is Mingo, #3 is Alabama's CJ Mosley... Mosley was 1st Team All-SEC by the coaches this year...Mingo was 2nd Team All-SEC by the coaches this year)
     
  6. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    This is some funny shyt. I can understand why the thread went the wrong direction since its title is, well, the title; however, TCUtiger, I think, was aiming for sumpin else.
     
  7. TCUTiger

    TCUTiger Founding Member

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    You are so very right..............I think it's the world we live in now. Then again, it's also Dec 7th, we bury almost 5K WWII vets a day now, it won't be long till there are none. I thank everyone of them I see these days.........it won't be long till I can't.
     
  8. TCUTiger

    TCUTiger Founding Member

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    I bet no one in the NFl will ever think that and for reason's beyond football.
     
  9. Winston1

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    The BCS game was AFTER the Heisman award so for those purposes it means nothing.He came up big in every game but the BCSNC game. In addition to his play on D last year his punt returns against Ark & Ga turned both games around. As you said is issue was that he had RGIII & Luck as well as being suspended for a game.
     
  10. BayouBengal014

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    No I think they got it right sorry bro. Robert Griffin was big for Baylor and is still doing what he does best in the NFL. Guy can flat out ball and has the smarts to go along with it.
     

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