Dwayne Bowe Suspended 4 Games

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  1. MobileBengal

    MobileBengal Founding Member

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    What would you consider a direct result? The reason we are bringing up steroid abuse is because diuretics are often taken to mask the use of anabolic steroids. That subcutaneous water that is being flushed dilutes the testosterone present in urine.

    Also, my info isn't from the government, though perhaps all the people I've spoken with are misled.
     
  2. arizonafan

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    The problem is that the idiots that be originally tried to get athletes to stop taking them by claiming not only that they are harmful(true) but also that they didn't really work(total bull). They work & work amazingly well. I used to lift quite a bit and never took them but know guys who did. When the PC idiots decided to claim that they didn't work and the athletes already knew that they certainly did then they also doubted the harmful claim. Steroids were 1st discovered as being used by athletes in the 1950's by a doctor in Los Angeles who had a number of patients who were athletes. An alarmingly high number of his athlete patients contracted liver cancer which is almost 100% fatal but very rare. He noticed that these patients were athletes in the "power" sports such as shot putters, bodybuilders, etc. So he interviewed them and since they were dieing they came clean. The main and 1st symptom is very high blood pressure. Also the liver is adversely affected because it filters out blood toxins. Also the body's testosterone production totally shuts down hence the "gonads as small as raisins" thing. They are deadly but not immediately so. Maybe in 15 years you have a massive heart attack. Guys take the chance because they want to be heroes and make millions instead of possibly selling insurance or being 3rd string.
     
  3. GregLSU

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    First of all, depending on the steroids used, testosterone metabolites can be detected up to 3 months after last use (other steroids can take up to 18 months). And while athletes may try and use things like diuretics to try and mask tests... it doesn't work. Testosterone molecules are not stored in your bodies water, they are absorbed IM into the blood, which then regulates the bodies testosterone levels... at best some may cheat and beat the testing through proven urinalysis techniques, but if the NCAA went to blood testing there'd be no way to cheat the system, since you can not hide metabolites in the blood stream.
    And as a direct result I mean, no one has died as a direct result of actually using steroids, where as steroids were responsible for shutting down the necessary functions for sustaining life. Take Alzado, he used steroids to the point of abuse, but his death was from a tumor exagerated by steroid use. Steroids are tool used to build tissue (muscle) and the body does not discriminate... if you have an underlying condition not known at the time of self administering steroids then they'll speed up the growth of whatever you have. This is where it's important to know your body and get a complete physical done. And then responsible use is paramount as well. As far as deaths go, 100s of items sold everyday OTC have had much more consequences on peoples healths then steroids have... it's about being educated and knowing whats responsible and whats diasterous.
    As for your sources, unless you've worked with or have actual experience and research the numbers... most don't have the true information needed to make informed decisions about these kinds of things.
     
  4. GregLSU

    GregLSU LSUFANS.com

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    Sounds like you went straight to the goverments Steroids are bad for you 101 site. Yes they can be dangerous, but anything can if taken in excess. Take Tylenol. Acetaminofen can kill you in a quick second once it shuts down your liver totally. But people everyday continue to OD and kill themselves off on it.
    All of the bad side effects you mentioned are a serious problem, but the gov't has tried to sell the steroids are bad thing for 20 years, and lied about it all... and now are losing the war on the subject since they were found to be liars.
    The gov't would have you believe that steroids will kill you after 1 shot if you're 16-39... but if you're 40+ and want to live longer healthier lives, and make love to your woman like you're 20 again, with more muscle and less body fat... then go to your local HRT doc and get on testosterone supplemtation. THis is the reason no one listens to our elected officials anymore... since they lie about everything then get found out.
     
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  5. UPTTiger

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    Maybe he thought it said "diarrhea" and he just needs a tune-up on the Lasik.
     
  6. GregLSU

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    LOL... that was funny.
     
  7. MobileBengal

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    Ok, I better understand your position, now. I'm on board.
     
  8. arizonafan

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    I didn't go to any government site whatsoever. The negative side effects I mentioned are well documented. Also there is no where that I said only 1 shot would do it. It takes years of taking the stuff to have the desired and undesired effects. When I said the powers that be lied about the stuff I WAS talking about the government so on this we totally agree. Of course Obama promised change so I'm now in the process of holding my breath.:thumb:
     
  9. tigerfan1974

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    It's cheating, it's banned, enough said. People are always looking for the easy way.
     
  10. captainpodnuh

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    Not all of those wrestlers dies from steroid use. Owen Hart, for one, died in a tragic accident during a stunt. Although there are many on that list that died from complications attributed to a lifelong abuse of steroids.

    I've been out of the wrestling loop for a number of years. There were several names on that list that I didn't know were no longer with us.

    I know how much a metri-dose pack messes me up. I can't imagine the come down from some of the much more powerful anabolics.
     

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