Drilling Moratorium

not trying to rationalize it. just understand it. still dont. no one has provided info besides the brazilian company is getting a loan from the us to drill deep off of brazil.

dont think its irrelevant. but what is the context. you and i dont really know how this normally works.

was the commission's job to determine fed policy? i bet it was to advise the prez.

im sorry that it is inconvenient for yall that i need info to form a firm opinion. i acknowledge that i dont have a firm opinion here, but seems like most others here do. im trying to show that those opinions are likely either fueled by political bias or emotion from the ****ty situation, but not facts.

 

Re: Judge Blocks Obama's Moratorium

Ken Salazar responds by saying he'll be issuing a new order soon. Damn the torpedoes, we're stopping deepwater drilling in the Gulf!

Interior Secretary says he will impose new drilling moratorium - CNN.com

 

This radical administration wants to reimpose the drilling moratorium.
Link below
Salazar seeks to reimpose drilling moratorium

 

The Gulf of Mexico's water is more accident-prone.

This is just so obvious I don't know how anyone could possibly argue otherwise. George Soros has over $800 million reasons to want those rigs off the coast of Brazil.

I heard that Anadarko is pulling out of the Gulf. It will be interesting to see if they supplement their operations in Brazil for Petrobras.

Not all all, but this judge's ruling is far from activist. He basically said that the Obama Administration ignored the recommendations of their own panel of experts and made a decision that was "arbitrary and capricious" by virtue of the government never giving a justification for their ban on offshore drilling.

This judicial activism is permissible as it counters executive activism.

He's a Reagan-appointee, by the way.

 

I'm getting that.

Your claims should really stick to what you know, or don't.

Obviously and and he ignored the majority opinion of his experts because it wasn't what he wanted to do. Additionally he added the moratorium to the commission report after it was completed, thus you have 8 experts now upset that their name appears to have endorsed something that they did not. By the way, there is no dispute of this by the administration.

You should acknowledge that you stated a clear opinion(quotes have been provided), and now you wish to appear neutral.

You also continue to characterize the people that disagree with your "non-opinion" as emotional in an attempt to marginalize their stated views. Plenty of facts have been provided but you continue to ignore them -

)a majority of his commission disagree with the moratorium and even suggest it could be more dangerous in the long term
)Obama attempted to mis-characterize their position by adding to the report after they issued it
)hundreds of millions in wages for La workers are being lost each month as a result of the shutdown
)dozens of satellite businesses may go under as a result
) 33 rigs sitting idle in the gulf will likely move elsewhere(taking the jobs with them)
)several are in negotiations with Petrobas
)Petrobas is a profitable Brazilian company that is getting billions of $ from Obama for even deeper drilling then what is currently banned in the gulf
)George Soros(a gulf ban advocate) has nearly a trillion $ invested in Petrobas. (Don't bother looking, there is nothing to see here)

Yeah, I see why you would need to wait and get some facts.

So what is your point? I did not say anything about this ruling being activist. Clearly it is not. I said I heard he was a liberal judge and it was no certainty he would rule against a democratic president, and when he didn't I was pleasantly surprised. That is all.

 

Obama will appeal the decision, and while I hope he loses, I am afraid he will win the appeal. I agree with what the judge said about the arbitrary and capricious nature of the decision, but that is not the same thing as saying it is unconstitutional.

 

I can't it getting overturned. It's being appealed at the 5th Circuit: New Orleans.

What concerns me is Salazar's new moratorium...

 

What we will end up with is a defacto moratorium where the oil companies are still reluctant to proceed with business.

 

I doubt that's true, but if it is, the judge would recuse himself and/or the lawyers would demand it.

 

Its true, they have the article up on the front page of yahoo. But it doesnt matter, Im with you on this one Sabafan, mark this day down:wave: