Do you treat atheist like second class citizens?

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  1. kluke

    kluke Founding Member

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    Cancer.
    I was trying to add detail to the 'was' so that it didn't seem he had dropped the A from Atheist or I had dropped him as a friend. He was one of the best people I've ever known.
     
  2. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    fine, for the record red believes that believing untrue things are true is smart behavior. behold the moderate man who says nothing extreme.

    i am aware.


    not saying it doesnt make it not true. he is a lunatic and we all know it. whether we say or not is beside the point. i think we should speak our minds in a venue like this.

    i am unconcerned about if people think i am a candy-ass. it isnt relevant. perhaps i am a fat weakling, perhaps not, doesnt matter, i am not the topic. the actual topic is that our entire planet is still basically overwhelmed by myths.
     
  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    well for the record i said a thousand times that there are billions of theists that are smarter than me, and that is why it is so interesting that they beleive. but i know you guys are worried about being thought about as second class citizens and are very sensitive. but yes, for the record theism = stupid.

    if we had a chat about gay folks, and some of us admitted "yunno i will be honest gay people are disgusting and they make my skin crawl", i would appreciate the honesty even if i dont feel the same way. and maybe gay folks would be offended, oh well. honesty is good. same thing if you are racist, which i kinda am, i think black people are for most part kinda dumber. and that is clearly offensive, but so be it, i am anonymous candy-ass, i can say that if i want. its good to be honest. and religions are stupid and smarter people realize that more often than dumber people do. given two random people, and all i know is one is religious and the other isnt, i will assume the one that is not religious is smarter, and i will be right most of the time.

    you say that as if it amazing. obviously i have christian friends. my dad is christian and he is the best man on earth (though not the smartest i guess). he knows what i think. it is no big deal except to you sensitive jackwagons.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    That's NOT what I said! Geez, you are thick today!

    That is not the issue at hand. No one disagrees with that.

    Then STFU.

    No, the original topic is how atheists are treated. The answer seems to be that agnostics and unconcerned atheists are treated no differently than anyone else. Atheist jerks are treated like jerks.
     
  5. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    my bad. well, given that you think christianity is a myth (your word) and these beliefs are simply imagination (also your word), do you think it is a smart idea to actually believe them? no comment? cant be too honest?


    no problem, it is isnt me that is whining about getting my precious feelings hurt by insults.

    the OP was a dishonest leading question. atheists are not "touchy". in fact i think i demonstrated that is the faithful that are touchy. i am happy to be questioned and mocked. when people tell me i am arrogant for lacking faith, i explain to them the flaw in their reasoning, i dont deny that i am arrogant, which i clearly am.

    sure, you wont see me complaining about how i am treated personally. my complaints are generally about how faith hurts society in general, not so much me in particular.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    How dishonest can you be? My comment was . . . a statement can be a myth without the speaker being stupid. Don't try to paraphrase it. Don't try to say I'm saying something else. I will just make you look foolish again.

    Go and try to make you own points.
     
  7. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i am not trying to put words in your mouth, i am asking you so you can say yourself! these things that you describe as myths, do you think it is smart to actually believe that they are not myths but are actually true?

    i know you can believe these things without being stupid. you can believe lots of stupid crap without actually being stupid. i believe all sorts of stupid crap. you might say that i have stupid opinions on global warming or music piracy. but oh no we cant say that other people are stupid about religion! thats off-limits!

    you are being evasive for the purposes of being inoffensive, but we can be offesive here we are just faceless internet characters.
     
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  8. PSU2LSU

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    I have a friend that's says he's atheist. Don't really pay him much mind because I could care less either way.
     
  9. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    then why don't you?
     
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  10. kluke

    kluke Founding Member

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    NOOooo I said that to give context to the next sentence. That theological discussions are possible without thinking each other idiots. The second sentence is frequently a problem for you.

    Since you are also claiming the 'honest' side of the discussion do you call your christian friends stupid to their face or just behind their back? Do you tell women when a dress makes their butt look fat?

    Honesty is good, so is civility.
     

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