Do you treat atheist like second class citizens?

You may be right. Santa hasn't published a bible, though, so I'm pretty sure he's harmless.

 

If you’re 10 yrs old or under, the fear of Santa not showing up or putting coal in your stocking is pretty close to being sent to hell. At least in their little minds it is.

 

well you can take your chances, but from here on out i am living for santa.

 

he hasnt been around long enough. give him about 1500 yrs after his son dies

 

I'm sure God would have forgiven you for falling off the wagon this once.

 

Saw the president of some American Atheists (or something like that) on O’Reilly and decided to catch up on this thread. Lotta stuff. Interesting conversation between Red and Martin.

Legacy - lotta of good posts. Would love a beer and a conversation sometime. I think you'd enjoy the story of my daughter as she was born and what she is today.

Red - We're on different sides of the core issue here but I agree with a lot of what you say. I tried early on (post #131) to make some of the same points but they were ignored. But no matter how you describe yourself I like your debate style.

Martin - Nobody is calling you arrogant because of what you do or don't believe about anything. It's because when you post on this topic you are to arrogance what Clinton is to lying.

Someone from NY told me a story about Martin. He met the absolute perfect woman. She was beautiful and charming and they talked for hours. He was smitten. After a while he asked for her number, and she smiled and told him. Then he smiled and asked her name, she smiled suggestively and said “I’m Faith”. So he punched her for using the "F" word.

I know, I know, it's an old atheist joke; but if we tell jokes about Baptist, Catholic, Jewish, and all other religions (and I do) and don’t tell atheist jokes then we’re discriminating and therefore treating them like second class citizens (thread topic). And I treat everyone the same, especially in humor.

 

red really gets a free pass, which is weird because he is up in here callling you important beliefs "myths" and describing your precious god as a figment of your "imagination".

 

But he didn't call people stupid cowards because he disagrees with them. It's more than a slight difference.

 

he said they believe in imaginary stuff and myths. he didnt explicitly say that was a stupid thing to think but you can do the math on that yourself. maybe he thinks it is perfectly smart to be unaware that myths are myths.

and for the record the cowardly part was the contention that faith shouldnt be questioned. everything should be questioned.