Do you treat atheist like second class citizens?

dont recall saying that. i cant speak for religious minorities. i am not even religious.

again, i am aware that religious folks kill each other over religion, alot. thats kinda my point. i dont like that we are a nation (and world) that is overwhelmingly religious. i dunno how many times i have to repeat it.

 

If only we were a society of more enlightened people such as yourself. If only history had provided an example of a country of Athiests with an official policy of elimination of religion. A nation of Atheists would no doubt provide a model of how people not shackled to faith would treat each other. We would call it Russia.

And as far as your statement about religious hate; in all these threads about God, faith, and religion the only person I've seen ever use anyting close to ‘hate speech’ is you, Martin. And I'm fairly certain your not religious.

 

thats nice but religious people have religion on their side when they justify killing. when athiests kill, it isnt because of atheism, which has no scripture or beliefs.

things can be ruined by things other than religion. communism, for example. a nation of martins, freedom loving democracy-favoring free-marketeers would be the most successful nation in history.

yes i know i love hate speech. what i do not like is actual violence. there is nothing wrong with hate speech. try to see that there is a difference between ideas that you do not like, and violence.

 

of course it does. in fact, those guy who carry the god hates fags signs are absolutely correct and have the rock solid bible verses to back it up.

are the muslims terrorists "true muslims"?

i know. the fact that is made up nonsense invalidates it.

for the record i am a huge global warming skeptic.

i never said science or scientists are perfect. only religions claim to know things that way.

no it isnt. you are utterly clueless.

 

truth isnt put to a vote.

thats nice of him.

if you say so.

 

(1)In government sponsored killings both sides use religion to justify (I would actually call this rationalize) killing; theists say the people they are killing have the wrong religion for the “good of the People”, atheists include the “good of the people” as a religion and add one more religion to the kill list. Killing is killing, violence is violence, and rationalization is rationalization.
(2)I agree with your statement that things can be ruined by things other than religion; I just include religion in the list of things that can be ruined. It seems to me that you sometimes blame the whole for the acts of the few and it’s axiomatic that no group should be blamed for the acts of a few nuts.
My real disagreement with you and some other atheists is the idea that atheism is the intellectually superior position, and everyone else stupid. It’s always funny when the self proclaimed intellectual superiors fail to see the irony in their situation. It’s a prime thread in human history.
(3)Anyone who knows me will tell you I’ve never been accused of being Politically Correct. But I also don’t intentionally disrespect other people’s ideas. This is my other area of disagreement with you. But returning to the thread title I really have no emotional investment in whether you or anyone else believes in God.