Do you think Miles can win a National Championship?

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  1. tigerpub

    tigerpub Founding Member

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    I sometimes think the skepticism with regard to Miles comes from his lack of media savvy...that is, his inability to articulate well. He has some good quips, but overall he seems to stumble around in extemporaneous press situations. It makes him look unintelligent. I don't believe that. But the press can be superficial and harsh in judgement.

    If you watch a Saban press conference, he commands that language better.

    With all that said. Actions speak louder than words. Miles has proven himself to be a good...maybe one day great...coach who surrounds himself with an excellent staff.

    Answer to the question...A resounding "Damn right he can." Geaux Miles and Geaux Tigers. The quest is on. :crystal:
     
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  2. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    That's the most overlooked intangible and definitely true.

    I understand/appreciate his spirit but don't think we're going to be close to be considered one of the best but you're so right about that "Brand".

    Remember the USC pimping by the media that whole week before VY (I would get sick to my stomach hearing "How they would have fared against team so-and-so when the computers would match them up. Well, the way it ended up they should have been projecting Texas against the "Others":hihi:

    I'm sure Big Mack was posting it all over the locker room and Texas' quietness led me to believe it was a motivator. The game came down to two big plays, the 4 and 1 for USC and then the- what was it? 30 yard scoring drive on the other end with VY literally taking it on his shoulders.

    Getting back to the thread, I'd actually prefer if LSU would begin the season 5th -10th and move up rather than go into the season with that target on our backs......prolly crazy for thinking like that but we know what we have, I don't care what the "Media" thinks- it'll all play out at the end and it's the final poll that counts anyway.


    Deek, I'm kinda surprised you'd think it's possible for a college basketball team to go undefeated but not think Les Miles can win a National Championship after his accomplishments in his first two seasons with us. He's done what other coaches in the SEC - who have NC's- never have.

    I thought we lacked focus for the Florida game- which can be put on the coach but our other loss against AU- I thought we should have thrown more but remember someone posting the play calling and it was much more balanced than I had remembered but may have been more pass heavy in second half, I don't recall. Field goal? The bad calls (Man I hate to say that cause I know they didn't cost us the game but it's hard to overcome that many), the final play- JR has done it many times- Az, Tenn, come to mind right off.

    The Tenn. game the year before with the choppers flying over the practices and players knowing they had friends/families at their homes who had no home? I don't even remember the other loss that year but just with those 3, it's very possible he could only have one loss in two years. You don't expect LSU to blow a 21 pt. margin, especially at home but our team had to be exhausted from the week's events.

    Not trying to pick a fight, just curious.
     
  3. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Good post and I think your absolutely right. What's ironic is that Miles is actually a much more "Respectful" man. Nick presents himself very well- and is a good coach- but when someone is SUCH a control freak, it's really from an insecurity of some sort. Miles is comfortable enough to say, "This is me, accept me for who I am".

    Not nearly every college coach is able to run out on the field, kiss their wife, and not worry about being percieved as "Hen- pecked". :hihi: I think it's a great thing, not only shows respect to his wife but to women as well- not a bad thing for kids to see given some of the lyrics of the music many listen to today referencing them as ho's- but also shows a lot of character.

    I will be just as happy for him as our team, fans, and program WHEN he brings home the crystal. :thumb:
     
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  4. CalcoTiger

    CalcoTiger Live Long and Prosper IVI

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    Do i think Coach Miles can win a championship. Of course he can but like many others have said it takes alot of factors to fall in place. It took that for fla. last year and for us in 2003.

    Look at last year and if the refs call just one of those many our way we could have been in the sec champship against fla and take away the turnovers in the first one and we definately could have beat them in the SEC chmpshp..

    Also in Auburn's undefeated season one loss by either of those and they are in the NC game. Does that mean that tubby is not a great coach or that the chips didnt fall their way.

    Charley MC was and is my fav Coach of all time and he didnt win a NC.

    If you use that as your guide of whether Coach Miles is a great coach then it is going to be hard to live up too.


    I think LSU could not have done better in their replacement of Saban.

    Coach Miles has so many great qualities that make him a great fit for LSU.

    - He is a great man of charachter.
    - He expects his players to be good citizens
    - He is a intense competitor.
    - His values come through on the recruiting trail.
    - He is someone parents dont mind trusting their kids with.


    Sure if he doesnt win people will be calling for his head but i will not judge him on whether he does or does not win a NC.

    Be a great leader for our team and school and keep recruiting quality young men first that keep us in the hunt each and every year.

    I think i am as proud of Coach Miles the man as i am Coach Miles the Coach. It is hard sometimes to keep life in perspective . Katrina should have helped our faithfull in that regard.


    I look forward to having Coach Miles leading our program for many years to come and i am greatfull to him for the way he showed us his values during a very tough time for our State. There is no way he does that unless his priorities are in order .

    Now that i have said all that we are going to be tough to beat next year and if a few breaks go our way next year 2003 will be a faint memory. If not i will still enjoy every second of the good and bad because it is still my Beloved LSU Tigers.
     
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  5. charlie_c0756

    charlie_c0756 Founding Member

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    Well,,,,,,,Hell Yes he can win a national title. Barring another hurricane and broken bones in the wrong places. Will he win a national title??? We're more loaded than a crack ho on a Nawlings street corner. Does the national opinion concur? Almost all national publications and predictiors feel the same. Case in point:

    http://cfn.scout.com/2/636844.html

    The only game that worries me is the one we're prone to overlook. We do play Alabama at Alabama. All the other tough games are in Tiger Stadium, unlike last year.

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  6. BostonBengal

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    I agree.

    Winning a National Championship isn't just about having the most dominant team in the nation--it's about having ONE of the most dominant teams in the nation along with a little scheduleing luck.

    You have to have the right mix of OOC games in which those opponents don't simply roll over and fall on their faces all season long after you play them. Look how close we were in '03 to NOT make the title game because of all the formulas that go into the mix (SOS, etc.).
     
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  7. tigerpub

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    He also has the balls to rid the team of rule-breakers. Hard to say the same for Urban, Spurrier and a not-so-few others.

    I wish the pros had the same standards. T.O. would be taking orders for personalized plates about now.
     
  8. LSUTyga73

    LSUTyga73 Football Connoisseur

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    I think Miles is certainly of capable of coaching a team to a championship. Just look at what happens when you give him 3-4 weeks to prepare, and you have massacres of teams like Miami and Notre Dame. We might not have as much control during the regular season and in getting there, but if we were to make the big game, Miles has proven to be more than capable to win given time to prepare.
     
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  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Probably true, they take Les for some kind of Jethro. Rival websites are full of comments about Les' manner of speech and his big white hat. That means he has to be a bad coach right? I say, only a fool would think that. And there are plenty of them.

    Les is not very articulate in front of the media, but he's honest and speaking from the heart. Les is much better at talking with players and coaches and recruits families, obviously.

    Nick is very crisp and articulate, but he gives you coachspeak and you have no idea what he really feels . . . if anything. Les is emotional and Nick is not.

    Bear Bryant and Cholly Mac were not very articulate in front of the media either. Anyone who thinks that slow talkin' equals slow thinkin' is a fool. And there are plenty of them.

    So let the fools imagine what they will. I judge a coach on his wins and I think we have a coach that is winning.
     
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  10. charlie_c0756

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    Curmudgeon is right on the money. I've always had a problem listening to the "hick-speak" coming from people in well-paying positions such as coaching. The best example of this was LBJ, who was a master at it. I always found that Satan,,,,uhh,,,,,Saban always talked alot without saying much. I don't doubt his coaching or recruiting ability, but I think he is rather insecure. Alot of college players respond well to a coach that's an ultra-disiplinarian and that's exactly what Saban is. However,,,,,grown men (professional-players) tend to take offense to his kind of treatment and fail to respond to it at all. Hence,,,,,his FAILURE at Miami (just my opinion, I could be wrong). He's got a 50/50 chance of suceeding with alot of his players as the college crowd seems to feel alot more mature than they actually are these days.

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    Keep in mind the Flynn Bleaux Out from the peach. The ability is there.
    :lsup: LSU! :lsup: LSU!
     

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