Do you #standwithahmed?

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  1. Jmg

    Jmg Veteran Member

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    Again, it was not built from parts. you don't seem to be able to comprehend that.
    It's not building a clock from parts if one of the parts you use is an already built clock. You keep saying he assembled a clock. He didn't. He didn't assemble a clock. He didn't build a clock. He didn't assemble a clock. He assembled a hoax bomb from a perfectly functional clock.

    Ahmed took a clock, and made it far less useful by removing it from its housing. Why would he want to clock to be less useful? I know why.

    I don't need to "concede" that he didn't make a bomb. Nobody, myself, the cops, nobody thought he made a bomb. He made a hoax bomb. Hoax bombs are illegal, which is why he was arrested, and why he was not apologized to, as you claimed. Even now the mayor and cops do not apologize.

    Anyways, read this:

    http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice...gineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/
     
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  2. Jmg

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    Ahmed claims he put wires instead of a buckle because that is less suspicious:

     
  3. Jmg

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    They didn't think it was a bomb. If they had ever thought it was a bomb, they woulda called the bomb squad. They thought, probably correctly, that it was a hoax bomb.

    Again, the issue is not a kid with a bomb. The issue is that it is illegal to scare people with hoax bombs.

    You won't, for example, amuse anyone at airport security with wires in a case.
     
  4. Jmg

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    The didn't evacuate because they knew it was a hoax bomb, not a real bomb. Nobody thought he had a bomb.
     
  5. Jmg

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    It's illegal to scare people with fake bombs.
     
  6. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    all except he wasn't trying to scare anyone and he never claimed that it was a fake bomb. in fact, he took it directly to his science teacher to show it off, just like any other kid would do. this has all gotten blown way out of proportion.
     
  7. Jmg

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    He certainly never claimed it was a fake bomb. And I don't necessarily think he was trying to scare poeple. That's why he won't be prosecuted. However, it is illegal to scare people with fake bombs, and for that, his arrest seems justified.

    You are right, he took it to his science teacher, who asked him to stop showing it, when he refused to do. He refused because it is fun to hoax poeple. I think he just thought it was funny, not really scary.

    It has been blown out of proportion, every jackass In America vigorously defending the kid in an effort to prove they are less racist than you.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Now you are just repeating yourself. You are logically done. Come back when you have a new argument.
     
  9. Jmg

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    I repeat myself because you are still repeating that he assembled a clock. The whole key to understanding his motive is understanding if he assembled a clock, or if he assembled a fun hoax bomb.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    But it is not illegal to disassemble a clock, which was why he was released and not charged with anything at all.

    You keep ignoring the salient point. Listen carefully. Hoax bombs contain hoax explosives. A disassembled clock is still just a clock. Your thesis is invalid because if the kid had done something criminal like making a hoax bomb, he would have been charged. He wasn't because he did not commit that crime, some third-party, yet unnamed mistakenly imagined this. No prosecutor on earth would make that charge. No rational observer would blame the kid for another's mistake. You are arguing that he committed a crime, when the facts are quite clear that he was never charged with a crime!
     

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