Do you #standwithahmed?

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  1. tigerchick46

    tigerchick46 Quick Learner

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    Possibly, but the day people like you get us all killed will likely come sooner.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Fortunately you will get wiser, too. People like me do not think the sky is falling. There is no danger of all of us being killed.
     
  3. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    Most of them are fine around here. Extremists bother me, of course, but so do extremists Christians or other religions.
     
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    Jmg Veteran Member

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    I am too lazy to read all of this but I will enlighten you all.

    1. Friends of Ahmed called him the bomb maker, which he kinda enjoyed.
    2. He thought it would be fun to mess with everyone
    3. He didn't build a clock at all, he just put a clock into a case. He does not have the skill to build a clock.
    4. Ahmed's dad is an idiot who craves attention
    5. The school wasn't racist.
    6. The left was so eager to brand everyone an islamaphobe that they got ahead of themselves before realizing Ahmed did this on purpose.
    7. All Muslims should be mocked and marginalized. Same with all religious people.
     
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  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It's easier than that. The kid had been making electronic gadgets from parts in his dads electronics shop and bringing them to school for years. One day he made one that alarmed a teacher who called a cop and they both behaved stupidly. Who knows what the kid thinks? Who cares what the kid thinks? It's a classic mountain made out of a molehill by stupid people. But when Obama chimed in, all of the right wingers had to then paint it as an insidious evil muslim Obama Kenyan plot masterminded by an adolescent islamic nerd who had it all planned out.
     
  6. Jmg

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    if he had been building things, he took a break from that to put a commercially bought clock in a box. When I first read the story it was credible and I thought he had a breadboard or maybe some Nixie tubes and a raspberry pi and had built something cool. But he hadn't. Obama also mistakenly believed he built a "cool clock".

    Dude, the clock still had the ac plug attached. Nobody builds anything with an ac power plug and exposed DC transformer.

    I agree that it doesn't matter what the kid thinks. The big issue is whether this exposes America as a racist and islamaphobic nation. And it doesn't, at least not more than islamaphobia is justified. This was just a chance for the left to be outraged.

    When I was a kid I got in trouble for a fake gun, and I am white. It happens all the time.

    So the issue with the kid is whether he created a hoax bomb or not. Hoax bombs are illegal. That law may be stupid, but it exists.

    So now we have to read the kids mind, on whether he intended to create a hoax bomb, or a clock. It seems pretty clear he intended to stir up trouble. No big deal, I did the same as a kid. But let's calm down with the indignation about hatred of Muslims, or making the kid out to be a genius.
     
  7. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    Can we drop the thought that he made this. It was proven that it is nothing but the guts of an alarm clock put in a metal covered pencil box.
     
  8. uscvball

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    I think it's also time to admit that plenty of folks jumped to conclusions and made erroneous assumptions. The idea that the English teacher said, "it looks like a bomb", is something that came from Ahmed. And yet, "Especially in those beginning days, there was a lot of erroneous information,” Lesley Weaver, the district’s director of communications, told The Washington Post in an interview last week. “That the teacher mistook the device for a bomb. The teacher never mistook it for a bomb or said she thought it was a bomb."

    And of course, in the first few days all those in support of Ahmed, claimed he was a model citizen. But he wasn't.
     
  9. Jmg

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    Even if she did say it looks like a bomb, she is correct, as it does, even when you know it isn't a bomb.

    Over the last few years the only person worth a damn discussing this topic is bill maher, which is unfortunate because he also has very dangerous opinions about the environment and genetically modified foods.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No he didn't. Look at the goddamn photo. Of course he didn't "invent" a clock, but he put one together from parts. Look at the circuit board, you can see the unused plug from a 9-volt battery. That part came from a battery-operated device. The control board came from something larger and the big LED display could have come from anything. He definitely replaced the battery with a transformer and AC cord to step down A/C power to 9 volts to run that circuit board. It's the kind of project that kids do. Did you never take thing apart to see what was in them when you were a kid? Did you never create makeshift gadgets from stuff you find laying around. I sure as hell did.

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