Do you #standwithahmed?

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  1. CalcoTiger

    CalcoTiger Live Long and Prosper IVI

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    Tiger in NC I don't agree with you that they should have known it wasn't a bomb. Bombs can be placed in anything and made to look normal. . Go talk to a professional person that deals with this every day. I have through my job talked to some of those people. Ever seen the beginning of the movie The Rock. You may laugh but the 1 time you don't error on the side of caution could be your last.



    I agree that if they thought it might be a bomb get the hell away and let the professionals deal with it. Evacuate the school. Even if 999 out of a thousand turn out negative the 1 real event kills people.

    Always error on the side of safety. This one line served me well as a member of a HazMat cleanup team in my younger days.


    I wonder how many schools do practice events with their local Fire Depts for the events that happen in todays world. Company's i go to work at do at least once a year. Chemical exposure drills, earthquake drills, fire events and spill events, and they have added mass shooting events. I wonder if this school had done any type of drill on this type of event. Did they say anywhere whether they had?
     
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    CalcoTiger Live Long and Prosper IVI

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    Well with Ahmed attending i think they better start!!!!!!!!!!
     
  3. CalcoTiger

    CalcoTiger Live Long and Prosper IVI

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    from what i hear this wasn't the first time this kid acted up. thanks to people like you and Obama this kid thinks the laws of society don't apply to him.

    Well of coarse those teachers with their bomb experience should have gone digging around in the device. To hell with safety precautions. How dare those teachers try to protect the other kids.

    Little Ahmed has the right to bring a device that could possibly be a bomb to school. Lets let him blow someone up before we do anything right.

    Reaction is always the best policy. Don't error on the side of safety.

    Do you realize how much your putting on the teacher.

    Where is this 14 year old privileged kids right to disrupt this school like this take over the rights of other kids who follow the rules.

    Maybe Obama should now have all the kids who abide by the rules to the white house. Him giving this kid that trip pisses me off more than anything about what happened.

    Wait till this kid is 18 and makes a real one. Where will all these posters defending this kid be then.
     
  4. CalcoTiger

    CalcoTiger Live Long and Prosper IVI

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    MLU you are right in what is needed but there are many different ways to make this happen. And they are found in pretty much every home. That's what makes this topic so dangerous. 14 year olds can use the internet for good or bad.

    Believe it or not i was watching an old episode of Dragnet not too long ago on TV Land Nick At Night and a chemical warehouse reported chemicals being stolen. So man they were on the case and it turned out a little boy was taking the chemicals in his wagon to make rocket fuel for his homemade rocket.

    It even explained what the kid was doing to make the rocket fuel. What chemicals he had stolen. Thank goodness it didn't tell the quantities he used and how he exactly mixed them.

    I started laughing to myself. not the kind of truth i want the kids of today knowing.
     
  5. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    I cannot speak for Irving ISD; however, in Plano ISD, we are required (and I believe it's state law) to have at least one fire drill a month, two tornado/severe weather drills a year (fall and spring; we have had to go into actual duck and cover during tornado warnings before), and several lockdown drills a year.

    The lockdown drills are very stressful, and there are many things that a teacher can do wrong that would put his/her students at risk. I used to hate to do them, but after my daughter's high school had to lockdown because of a gun threat on campus on 9/11, I'm not longer hating that we do the drills.
     
  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Bill Maher is roasting this kid. Apparently there is a YouTube video of someone making this "clock" by just ripping out the guts of an alarm clock and sticking it in a brief case in like 20 seconds.



    Just add him to the long list of middle eastern con men trying to sell a piece of shit rip off.
     
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  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    He's a kid. Taking stuff apart up to see how it works is what smart kids do. I did it, you did it, Ahmed did it. So what? My dad and I made an air compressor out of a briggs and station lawn mower engine and a washing machine motor once. He already had an air compressor, but he wanted me to understand how they worked. This guys father owned an electronics store. Lots of busted devices, I expect.
     
  8. uscvball

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    He's a precocious intelligent 14-year old with a history of suspensions and detention. He was hungry for attention, any attention, even the negative kind. He was well versed in his 1st Amendment rights. He wanted fame, internet-type fame. He got it and now he wants to talk about how damaged he is.

    I'm going back to the parents. They knew he was constantly getting in trouble, that he'd brought these homemade projects to school multiple times. Why not restrict him from bringing his issues to school where it impacts other students and teachers? Bring him to the electronic shop on the weekends or have him go there after school. Focus his need for experimentation, don't encourage it by foisting it on the public school system.

    It's insulting that with all the attention and fame he's experiencing as a result of this, his parents are still laying the groundwork for a lawsuit based on PTSD. They should send Ahmed to the local VA so he can learn what real PTSD sounds, looks, and feels like.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Who has said this? A Google search for "Ahmed Mohamed previous suspensions, trouble, detentions" turns up nothing at all.

    How do you know this? The Dallas Morning News debunked these theories already.

    What trouble was he getting into? Was he ever prohibited from bringing his projects to school? Is any child prohibited from having pride in a project?
     
  10. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    His school files are not for public consumption so there is just speculation and hearsay about suspensions. The other things come from his teachers.
    This Dallas Morning News article details a little more:

    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/comm...tic-inventions-and-a-fight-with-authority.ece
     

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