Do you disagree with any of this?

You always try to avoid any share of the blame Red....Why? Are you saying nothing I posted is true? Don't boomers have a share of the mess we live in today? Or are you, like so many others in total self absorbsion and denial? I see you only making debating points and attacking individual comments rather than furthering the sense of the discussion. Are you afraid of where it will lead??

 

Only tagently related, but does anybody else hate working with baby boomers?

They seem to place value in the wrong things. To them doing a good job is showing up on time, never taking a long lunch, never leaving early, and having a tidy desk at the end of the day.

When I worked for the coffee company (worst year of my life) the accounting manager who reported to me complained about every policy I wrote, and every process I changed. He didn't care that the processes I put in place were more efficient. All he could understand was effectiveness, and the ones he had been using for thirty years were effective. When I re-designed the close process I tried to have him flow out the current process so I could see what needed to be changed. He didn't want to take part in a "coloring assignment." I had a staff accountant do the flow. I cut the month end close cycle time frame by three days, and the new process was much less stressful for everyone and was better controlled. The old fart complained about not having time to do some arcane task. I told him he didn't need to do that task because it wasn't necessary in the new process. I told him discontinuing these old, unnecessary, manual tasks was part of the reason we were able to cut three days out of the close process, and to reference his flow, and the accompanying policy statements for his responsibilities, and his risk matrix so he could see that all necessary controls were in place.

The same guy gave one of the staff accountants a poor performance rating because she wasn't dependable. I had never had a problem with her work, so I asked him about the rating. He explained that she wasn't doing some sort of reconciliation that he wanted her to do. I got out my process flow and the policy statements for that process. This reconciliation was something I had cut out when I changed the process. I showed him that the staff accountant didn't need to do the reconciliation, that an automated job did it, and that I got a daily error report if there were unreconciled items. I then showed him the binder where I kept the reports and the resolutions. He was pissed. After I left they promoted the staff accountant to my old job and he got left the company because he had been passed over for promotion twice.

I also had a number of clients of that same age that had his disposition. Several of the employees I worked with at the state job were the same way, but I couldn't tell if it was because they were of that age, or if it was because they were civil servants.

Give me a millennial any day of the week. They have a better understanding of processes, are more eager for increased responsibility, and are more adapt to change. I think once they are running the show the country will be much better off.

 

That's just the nature of age. Your parents are the same way. At least mine are.

 

You paint repubes like that all the time Red.

Come on now. You are better than this.

 

When he is defending a point Pride he isn't. Winning his point is more important than being reasonable.

 

I like debate but my goal in one is to find the truth. Too many want a victory by nonsense and aren't trying learn or evolve their stance. Especially in these political debates. I don't enjoy that and find it senseless.

I do think Winston seeks truth which I do respect bc I try to constantly evolve my own position regardless the subject.

 

Right but if you are seeking truth you debunk your side as fervently. Most never do that publicly and if you don't concede points it becomes pointless. Although its entertaining at times. I think some evolve their stance yet never give ground. I find it more effective when one concedes they actually learned something from other side. It shows you actually seek truth and aren't arguing atop an empty mountain. I just made that up and not sure what it means.

To be fair, I don't have the patience for politics, but I do enjoy reading legitimately open minded discussions. They just rarely happen.