difference between conservatives and democrats

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    But they benefit the rich far more than they benefit the middle class. The cuts on investment income helped the middle class a little because the middle class receives a very small income from investments. The very rich get huge amounts of income from their investments, which constitute the bulk of their income. So people with primarily salary and small business income get taxed at 35% while the people whose income is mostly investment profits pay 15%.
     
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  2. Atreus21

    Atreus21 Founding Member

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    Shrug. You have your opinions. I have mine. What you call "my way or the highway" I call "enough is enough."
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Enough of what? Reason? Diplomacy? Compromise? Middle Ground?

    How can you justify demanding 100% of a right wing agenda with a 51% majority? Effective governments in an evenly divided situation have to work to gather and compromise or nothing gets done. The ones who refuse to budge and make "pledges" to the Tea Party are the ones that are rightly perceived as obstructionists.
     
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  4. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    The highlights of our history as a nation are centered around times when great compromises were reached (i.e. the writing of our constitution) and the low points can be directly attributed to eras when compromise became a dirty word (i.e. the civil war).
     
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  5. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    the democrats idea of compromise is same as that saying "2 wolves and a sheep arguing over whats for dinner". when democrats fillibuster it's protecting the poor, when republicans don't vote it's stonewalling congress.
     
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    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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  7. Atreus21

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    Yes, and in such a case as the civil war, there was no room for compromise. It was because of compromise that slavery was allowed to endure at the nation's founding.

    I'm not denigrating compromise as a vice. I simply challenge the notion that it's a virtue.
     
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  8. LSUDad

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  9. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    I am interested to know why you do not consider it a virtue. Please keep it in the proper context (politics) when explaining. I understand that each of us has a set of morals that we are unwilling to compromise in our personal lives but in the context of a democratic government, how is compromise not a virtue?
     
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  10. LSUDad

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    All but the liberal ones. Oh wait, I'll stop there.
     
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