difference between conservatives and democrats

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  1. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    gyver, Jul 14, 2012
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    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    Not entirely. Without proper regulation we get situations like the housing bubble and the mortgage crisis and the Wall Street banking crisis. Runaway greed is a common by-product of industry regulating itself.
    wasn't it Barney Frank and Frank Dodd that were in charge Fannie and Freddie and also the Banking and Financing Committees? yep i think so.
     
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    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    if your going to grow govt then the military is where it should be grown. so many of us that could not afford college out of high school and lived in areas of limited economic opportunity, joined the military to receive training as well as serve our country. i was in the advanced electronics field myself, Sonar Tech 3rd class on subs.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It was a simple vote and it passed . . . just like 10,000 bills before it.

    You can't possibly be this foolish. They hammered this document out over the course of a year and edited it a thousand times until it pleased as many people as possible. It has been read and re-read. Just because you haven't read it doesn't mean nobody has.

    Your naiveté is showing.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Cherrypicked quotes.

    Here are some others . . .

    “Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise.” -- Thomas Jefferson

    "The purse of the people is the real seat of sensibility. Let it be drawn upon largely, and they will then listen to truths which could not excite them through any other organ." -- Thomas Jefferson

    To facilitate to them the performance of their duty, it is essential that you should practically bear in mind that towards the payment of debts there must be revenue; that to have revenue there must be taxes; that no taxes can be devised which are not more or less inconvenient and unpleasant; that the intrinsic embarrassment, inseparable from the selection of the proper objects (which is always a choice of difficulties), ought to be a decisive motive for a candid construction of the conduct of the government in making it, and for a spirit of acquiescence in the measures for obtaining revenue, which the public exigencies may at any time dictate. -- George Washington
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It is not the purpose of the military to create jobs, nor retain unneeded bases so that local economies benefit, nor to be a community college. It's purpose is to defend the country by being deadly and destructive. And in the case of a Superpower to project power globally. The modern military is getting leaner, meaner and decidedly high-tech. That is the future . . . more teeth, less tail. There is a lot of bloated baggage, gold-plating, and tons of waste in the military budget that needs to go.

    Don't forget that the Soviets spent themselves into bankruptcy and collapse by devoting so much money to their military that everything else suffered badly and failed.

    We spend more on the military than the rest of the world combined. We can cut a lot without endangering the country at all.
     
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    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    I am sure I have read more of it than you.

    Shall I quote what old Nancy said? But surely, you would understand I was being just a tad bit facetious.
     
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    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    There is a sound reason for that.

    Unlike you, who want's to sit back and wait for shit to go down, I prefer our normal tone of staying ahead of the game and being global.


    I'd rather not get our shit smacked again like we did in Pearl Harbor.
     
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    Every part of the government operates that way.
     
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    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    I'd rather see money go to the military personnel that actually work for their keep than see it get disbursed to people who are able yet still refuse to work. No telling how many people do time in the miitary and receive the discipline, training, and leadership skills that it takes to be successful then when they get out start up their own company.
     
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