Contraception....

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by Tiger in NC, Mar 4, 2012.

  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2003
    Messages:
    19,026
    Likes Received:
    934
    remember they used to actually have mcpizza. i liked it. subway unexpectedly has pizza which is terrible.
     
  2. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2006
    Messages:
    32,743
    Likes Received:
    11,273
    Better one is in giving directions.

    Person A "Okay, let me see if I got this...go to the red light and take a left?"

    Person B "Right".


    Person A "Oh, right? I thought you said left".

    Person B "Right, I DID say left."

    :lol:
     
  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2003
    Messages:
    19,026
    Likes Received:
    934
    i think the point is that only the government can coerce by force. the catholics can whine all they want, but they cant arrest me if i dont follow their doctrines. adherence to their rules is voluntary. you can disobey fox news or your priest without any real consequences.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    That's not what he said, though. He said impose it's will. The Church is certainly imposing it's will here. Not only on its members, which is part and parcel of a religion, but also upon it's employees, whether Catholic or not.

    And the Spanish Inquistion was certainly coercion by force by the Church, as were the Crusades.
     
  5. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2003
    Messages:
    8,787
    Likes Received:
    1,207
    It can't. The employees can go work somwhere else where the compensation package offers what they want.

    Twenty-first century America is nothing like 10th and 15th century Europe. Though I would argue many of the Crusades where Just Wars and were necessary to stop the destruction caused be radical Islam.

    The Spanish Inquisitions to a degree were also necessary to some degree in order to stop Moorish and Jewish converts from undermining the Spanish government.
     
  6. martin

    martin Banned Forever

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2003
    Messages:
    19,026
    Likes Received:
    934
    you cant impose your will on employees in the way we are discussing, unless those employees are slaves that cant quit.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    Likewise, these universities can choose to relinquish public research and education dollars and these hospitals can decline medicare and other federal insurance plans that don't have standards that they must meet.

    Start a thread and I will challenge this argument on several fronts.

    You cannot seriously defend the Spanish Inquisition either.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    Try to pay attention, Scooter, we are discussion the federal government here, not my will.
     
  9. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2003
    Messages:
    8,787
    Likes Received:
    1,207
    This mandate applies to all employers, not just ones receiving federal funds. And I have never seen a federal grant that requires compliance with all federal regulations.


    You'd look silly doing it.


    Based on your previous posts I know you don't know very much about the inquisition. Some aspects of it are defensibile, given the state of Iberia at the time the Spanish monarchy requested the inquisition to be founded.
     
  10. southerntgr

    southerntgr Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2011
    Messages:
    1,261
    Likes Received:
    81
    I know, right
     

Share This Page