Concealed carry permit holder puts another thug down, forever.

That's silly, you should be able to use the women's bathroom thoufh

 

Yes, but so is giving preference to anybody based on what they "identify" as rather than who or what they really are.

 

From the Left, but not necessarily leftist, Coast......

I also have a daughter and she doesn't want to share a bathroom or locker room with a boy/man who has outdoor plumbing. This entire subject goes beyond legally allowing pervs into the Ladies.

We have a group of people who want to feel "comfortable" and are demanding the legal right to use the bathroom that allows them that comfort. But what of the rights of the women who also want the right to feel comfortable in "their" restroom? When I enter the Ladies, I can relax for the most part because I know who is in there. I can carry on a conversation with strangers about tampons, childbirth, female issues, etc. I don't worry about my daughter because there is a sense that a room filled with women is not dangerous in any sense and that any sensitive "issue" is okay.

A penis is a game changer. It's that simple. A man with a penis who feels like a woman, isn't a woman. They can't understand or discuss what PMS is, they don't carry extra female products around, they have no idea about pregnancy, delivery, post-partum issues. As a born female, I have a right to feel comfortable in a sensitive and private place. Give me ONE good reason why a man with a penis who "feels" like a woman, has a greater right to their feelings than I do to mine.

 

I just have to come back to this. You are suggesting the "older" folks or those who are more conservative are somehow wrong or don't have a right to their opinion. WTF? If a millennial has an opinion and a vote, then so does an older conservative!

To your argument....a sexual predator may well indeed stalk bathrooms but with these laws, they now have a legal right to.

 

No one has the right to stalk a bathroom, and where did I say older folks don't have a right to their opinion? I dont recall saying that.

 

So you would be ok if that person was operated on and had their penis removed? Are you that scared of a piece of skin? Scared its gonna jump out and bite you? Or every trans person is gonna be jacking off in the stall? I guarantee you, it's the heterosexuals you have to worry about.

There is this strange taboo out there that all homosexuals and transgendered people are just some sexual deviants, and maybe some are, but so are straight and non trans people. Again, the woman's bathroom doesn't have a picture of a vagina on it, it has what looks like a woman.

You have the right to your opinion I just feel you are being extremely narrow minded, and would probably feel different if you had a son who identified as a woman.

 

Here is what you said that I took exception to...."So I started to ask myself, is this just something us older folks are uncomfortable with because of our conservative nature? I think the answer to that is yes."

When you insert the word "just", it's a limiting word. It implies that on it's own, it has less merit than the opinion you consider on the other side. You suggest, IMO, that older folks with a conservative nature are somehow unfairly or unjustly uncomfortable and that they should step aside in favor of younger folks. I am saying both parties have an equal seat at the table.

 

Even if a man opts for castration, he won't ever be a woman. You can't change DNA. However, yes, my level of comfort in the private setting of the Ladies would be increased as opposed to the introduction of a penis.

And please stop with the histrionic, over dramatic, monochromatic analysis of what I said by simply equating my thoughts to being afraid. If you applied some insight, you would see that it's about comfort level, something achieved through common experience. No man can really be a woman, when they have not been. Why do you think women almost always go to the Ladies in pairs? It's because we like to talk in there, we feel more comfortable with a like-minded partner. Anyone with a penis is the "ones" I have to worry about.

My comments had nothing to do with sexual deviancy and I did not say trannies were more likely to behave badly. What I said was that they are in fact, men, and their presence in the Ladies, whether dressed up or not, changes the comfort level for me, as a woman.

So because I as a woman, don't want to share private, enclosed space with a physiological male, I am narrow minded? Total effing bullshit. I will ask one more time, why is THEIR right to comfort any more important than MINE?

And no, I don't believe I would feel differently and a big reason is basic function. A man can pee just about anywhere without doing any more than unzipping or flopping it over the top or out the side of their gym shorts and giving it a little shake shake. As with most other things female, women are far more complicated. I need to sit....on a seat....with a roll of pee/shit tickets....while fully exposed. So if a man with a penis dressed like a woman, doesn't want to use the men's room, he can still pretty much find a way to pee without too much issue. Me? Not so much.


Why should society as a whole be expected to change all things, including laws that impact all of us, to accommodate a very small percent of society? Why are women and their thoughts/feelings on this topic so easily dismissed? Nobody asked me ahead of time whether I wanted to share the Ladies room with a man.

 

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When do the Trojans play the Rhode Island School of Design Gonads?

 

I know this will not sit well with a lot of folks but I'm gonna say it anyways. I'm not going to get in an argument or discussion about it so I will not reply to anything anyone posts in opposition to it as all are entitled to their thoughts on the subject. Mine are this.....unless we have a genetic mutation which most who do die before or soon after birth we are all born with either an XX or XY set of chromosomes. This is not a mistake. A person who is born xx or XY but thinks they should be the opposite was not born with the wrong chromosomes. There is no mistake there. What they are born with is a mental disorder that should be treated not encouraged. That does not mean they are not nice individuals or that they are a danger to anyone or anything like that. But IMO it is a mental disorder just not a violent one. I do not think they should forced into treatment or anything like that as no they are not any more a danger to anyone than anyone else but their mental disorder should not be encouraged and allowed to trump the desires of what seems to be a majority of the population.