Commitable offers vs. Non-Commitable offers?

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  1. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    If you got that out of that statement you are using a different dictionary than the rest of the world. "They are invitations to offer a commitment" is garbled nothing and a totally meaningless incoherent jumble of words.
     
  2. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    In context its exactly what I explained. no point in wanting to see it in writing to argue semantics.


    example 2:

    You get the 2nd interview but the boss will be in touch. not you.
     
  3. Lil Jules

    Lil Jules Founding Member

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    It means exactly what it says. It's termed an offer, but that's not really what it is. When a real offer is given the decision is up to the player to accept it or reject it (sign with another college). When a non-commitable offer is given, it's not really something the player can accept. It sort of turns the tables. The player can let the school know that he is interested and would like to accept a scholarship, but he cannot yet commit. The option is then given to the school to either accept his commitment or to decline it. It's an invitation to offer a commitment that is subject to acceptance by the school.

    This is off topic, but it is very comparable to contract law on advertisements. An advertisement is typically regarded as an invitation to treat. In order for there to be a binding contract there must be an offer and an acceptance. Many times advertisements are mistaken for offers. They are actually invitations to the customer to make an offer. The advertiser is not required to sell to every single customer that wants what he has to sell (if that were so, sellers would be contractually required to sell more goods that they actually have).

    If you carry the logic far enough, non-commitable offers are comparable (sort of) to advertisements.
     
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  4. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    Nothing personal but I'm calling BS!!!!! If Miles and his staff were telling recruits that BS they would head for greener pastures. I think the kid thought he had an offer when he didn't, how that happened I don't know. However all this mumbo jumbo about you have an offer but you really don't have an offer and you can commit but you can't really commit sounds like a bunch of internet rumor by some who want to sound like they have inside info when they really don't. JMO
     
  5. CParso

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    Every school does it this way, and Lil Jules broke it down very well, if not a bit abstractly.

    You can chose to believe what you want, but it is what it is.
     
  6. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    Jules, I literally just finished studying for a Blaw exam next week. Thanks for the extra tune up because that was almost exactly what the Agreement chapter said about Ads.:wink: I think this is one of my favorite classes now that I have taken 2 of them.
     
  7. K_Jay

    K_Jay Founding Member

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    Sounds like it's just the school asking the kid: If we offer you a commitment will you take it? , we are not offering you right now but are giving serious consideration to doing so at some point in the future and we just want to know where we stand with you. : does it go something like that maybe? It cant be all that convoluted legal mumbo jumbo, not many recruits would understand it and most would probably be turned off to the school. How do they let them know that the offer is non-commitable?
     
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  8. TigerBait3

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    Im doing blaw work right now too. But last semester we did talks about the NCAA and rules...pretty interesting.
     
  9. ghost_tiger

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    This is the first time I've ever heard of this. Coaches don't go around handing out A and B offers to kids. That just doesn't happen. You'd ruin relationships that way not to mention cause a lot of confusion. Here ya go son, just what you always wanted an offer from LSU but you can't really commit to it. That's just silly and doesn't happen otherwise LSU would just send out non-committable offers to every kid in the country. An offer is an offer. If the school is extending an legitimate offer to the player then that player has a right to commit to that school the first week of February. There is nothing saying that a school can't extend an offer and then rescind it later. It just doesn't look good. This could very well be the case with Conner.

    I was never recruited by a D1 school but I can't imagine it's very different from DII. And I know very well knew which schools that were recruiting me had extended offers. That kind of stuff isn't hidden in the small print.


    And btw, schools offer more kids than they have scholarships for the same reason that hotels and air planes over book their rooms/flights. Statistics show that not everybody is going to show up. That's not that difficult to understand. As much as I'd like to believe that every kid that LSU offers wants to go to LSU but just isn't reality. And I think the coaches understand this.
     
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  10. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    You're contradicting yourself and I can promise you schools DO have more offers on the table than they can accept. It's like banking, they loan out more money than they actually have and if everyone decided, today, to pull their money from the banks, they'd fold. That's how CD's were evolved.

    Why do you think there's a thread dedicated to it? There is confusion and not just with the fans, see Conner thread.
     

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