Cold facts: Not Les's fault

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  1. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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  2. roynav

    roynav free your mind

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    Thats a legit criticism. I do blame Les for our lack of QB talent and not being better prepared in the predictable event Ryan Perrilloux screwed up.

    Of course hopes were high for JL

    http://forums.tigerfan.com/lsu-recruiting/39804-jarrett-lee-commits-lsu.html

    and

    JJ

    http://forums.tigerfan.com/lsu-recruiting/64800-jordan-jefferson.html
     
  3. roynav

    roynav free your mind

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    Les certainly isn't perfect, but he seems to be a good man and has among the best coaching records in LSU history.

    And for sure things are NEVER NEVER EVER dull with Les at the helm. Don't know how many near heart attacks he's given me over the years.
     
  4. west_tex_tiger

    west_tex_tiger Founding Member

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    Is that you Les?


    Is that you Les? :dis:

    You've got to be friggin kiddin me. This is his 6th year. He recruited all the QBs and he hired Crowton. Last season, he only signed one QB who was going to be a 1st round draft pick in baseball. He has stuck with JJ all year even though he should have been playing Lee as far back as when we went 3 & Out three times in a row to start the Vandy game.

    Today's time management fiasco and the one last year against Ole Miss are two of the worst coaching blunders I've seen in 30+ years of watching football.

    If you like Les that's cool, and if you want to promote his virtues go for it. Just please don't try and excuse the Head Football Coach in his 6th year for the performance of the team. In a nutshell -- That's his job.
     
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  5. alfredeneuman

    alfredeneuman Founding Member

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    So when did you and Miles tie the knot?
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Les is not a good time manager, that much is obvious. He does recruit excellently and his players stay out of jail. He's a good CEO-type coach.

    But he must have an OC that is good at what Les is bad at. Good CEO's cover their weaknesses this way. Crowton isn't getting it done and Les must address this as he did with the DC.

    But the real story of this game, is the five turnovers and the penalties. The game would not have ever been this close if we had not killed drives. We slaughtered Tennessee in the stats, except for scoring.
     
  7. LSUDieHard

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    Lee made some mistakes. But he's been riding the pine for a year and a half so I expect a little rust. But watch that last drive again. As LSU is moving with no timeouts, watch Lee calling his team back to the line of scrimmage. Watch him get his play off without wasting much time. Then watch the debacle play at the one with JJ in as QB. He doesn't know what to do. He stands there lost as the clock winds down. I'm not saying JL will be the next Rohan Davey or Tommy Hodson but yesterday he showed that he deserves the chance to show if he can Mauck/Flynn this team to a BCS bowl type year.
     
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  8. Trolyce

    Trolyce Founding Member

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    I disagree. I've been a football coach for 12 years, from 7 year olds up to high school. He is 100% responsible and at fault for what happens on the field. If my teams performed the way LSU has performed, for more than one season now, it is my fault.

    If we have some of the best talent in the nation and we continually under perform, who is to blame? It's coaching and nothing else. You can point to individual mistakes as much as you want, but most of what you listed
    can be directly attributed to coaching and how you practice your team and get them prepared.

    It's completely obvious that we are winning IN SPITE of coaching. Let me ask you this, have you ever seen a team perform badly because they had no confidence in the coaching staff? This sport is as much mental as it is physical and if the coaching staff is projecting incompetence, then we are getting the exact performance you would expect.
     
  9. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Fixed.
     
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  10. LSUDieHard

    LSUDieHard Founding Member

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    I know it ultimately falls on the head coach. That's life. But Les Miles is the HC of a team with an inept, undisciplined offense but also the HC of a team with a lights out defense. So if the offense makes Miles a laughing stock then the defense should make him a guru. The point being that the coordinators make a boat load of dough and are ultimately responsible for their side of the ball. Crowton is not getting it done. He needs to go. Now.
     

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