Coach 1st Half vs 2nd Half Crowten or Miles?

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  1. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    For the life of me, I cant understand Les Miles' philosphy.
    1st half-this team is super conservative except for maybe 2 games. V-Tech and Florida. All of the weapons we have and we wont test the defense until the second half.

    for the talent level that we have, I dont understand the coaching here.
    is it Crowton or Miles?
     
  2. P&G_wheelz007

    P&G_wheelz007 Football anyone?

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    All of the above....

    I also think the players are playing harder and better in the second half.

    Execution and effort is what usually determines whether or not a play works, and how well it works!

    And calling the right play in the right situation.

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  3. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    I dont think its Crowten, I think he wants to score 100 every game. I do think its Miles, he has that Big 10 philosphy which doesnt always work in the SEC, cause everyone has speed so getting to the edges and turning it into something is much more trickier.
     
  4. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    I think some of it really can be explained as a lack of execution and focus. I tend to think some of that should be blamed on the coaches, though the players also hold some responsibility. Some of the blame should also go to our opponents (most have been pretty solid) and injuries.

    I actually worry that Crowton isn't using hardnosed football in situations that call it (the fourth and short when we threw a screen pass instead of dominating the line and punching through for a first down, for example).
     
  5. P&G_wheelz007

    P&G_wheelz007 Football anyone?

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    I was at the R-Kansas game and there was 1 extremely negative idiot sitting behind us. The other fans in our section were terrific, but this one jerk deserves mentioning.

    Remember the short pass to Hester that he took 50+ yards for a TD only to have it called back because Doucet wasn't lined up right?

    A few possessions later, they ran the same play, only this time R-Kansas did a great job of breaking up the play. The jerk behind me yells- "What are we doing? What kind of play calling is that?"

    I was finally tired of hearing his mouth so I said, "That's the same play we ran that Hester took to the house, but it got called back!"

    If LSU runs a play that's isn't successful, we say its terrible play calling.
    If LSU runs the same play and we it turn into a big gain, or a score, we say its opening up the offense.

    Most of the time guys, it comes down to execution, effort and calling the right play in the right situation.

    :geaux:
     
  6. Robidoux87

    Robidoux87 You call that a double?

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    I love Hester, but giving him 25 carries per game while barely using Williams, Scott, Murphy and Holliday* is a huge question mark to me.

    *I know he's hurt, but I feel that he could have used more touches during the course of the season.
     
  7. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    I agree with this wholeheartedly, seems like when Scott gets it he breaks it 50% of the time as with Williams.

    Murphy I would line up in the slot a few times, just because of his height and having LBs that would have to cover him.:LSU231:
     
  8. LSUTiga

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    It's always about execution. Play calling is more about what's working best against any given team, percentages, and what they're expecting- or not- the "chess game".

    Aggressiveness, for example, cam be taken advantage of with misdirection. Even the big plays we gave up on defense were because of blown assignments (Lack of execution). Most fans, like me, watch the ball and key in on skill players when, to see what's happening, you have to look around the ball.

    In basketball too. I was telling someone the other day, the best basketball coaches often don't know who scored cause they watch what's going on away from the ball.
     
  9. TigerBait3

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    I will agree that he likes to get the ball in playmakers hands after halftime....seems to happen every game.
     
  10. P&G_wheelz007

    P&G_wheelz007 Football anyone?

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    Ever think that the reason the other RB's are able to break one is because they've been pounded 15-20 times by Hester and that massive O-Line?

    The whole offensive plan for LSU is based on balance, and doing a little bit of everything to see what is working best against the particular D. We have the capability of pounding Hester 20 times a game which wears down the oponent and breaks their will. It also eats up the clock.

    Mixing the other guys into the running game serves as a great change of pace, and sometimes confusses the opposing D. Tired of being pounded by Hester? Good, now go and catch Williams or Scott or Holliday.

    When we line up with 4 or 5 wide-outs, we throw the ball to everyone so the D doesn't know what is coming. We throw the WR screen. We throw the deep ball occassionally. We throw some short quick hitters. The opposing D has no idea what's coming next.

    Our offense is averaging what? 40 pts a game???

    Our "O" is doing a terrific job.

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