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  1. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Looks like a .0001 uptick for Booby Jindal. Keep that up and he will be the favorite by 2056
     
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  2. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    They don't get 24d, that is the maximum time allowed for inspecting countries to arrange for inspection of undeclared sites. Inspections don't just happen. Anyway they could have a year and they couldn't hide all the evidence. You Obama haters just believe anything breitbart puts out. The least you could do is realize you are too ignorant to evaluate a topic.
     
  3. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    you're right. I read this on wsj the other day.


    Iran Inspections in 24 Days? Not Even Close
    Iran can easily stretch out the inspection of suspect nuclear sites for three months or more.


    By
    HILLEL FRADKIN And

    LEWIS LIBBY



    July 21, 2015 7:38 p.m. ET

    The Obama administration assures Americans that the Iran deal grants access within 24 days to undeclared but suspected Iranian nuclear sites. But that’s hardly how a recalcitrant Iran is likely to interpret the deal. A close examination of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action released by the Obama administration reveals that its terms permit Iran to hold inspectors at bay for months, likely three or more.

    Paragraphs 74 to 78 govern the International Atomic Energy Agency’s access to suspect sites. First, the IAEA tells Iran “the basis” of its concerns about a particular location, requesting clarification. At this point Iran will know where the IAEA is headed. Iran then provides the IAEA with “explanations” to resolve IAEA concerns. This stage has no time limit.


    Opportunities for delay abound. Iran will presumably want to know what prompted the IAEA’s concern. The suspect site identified by the IAEA is likely to be remote, and Iran will no doubt say that it must gather skilled people and equipment to responsibly allay IAEA concerns. Iran may offer explanations in stages, seeking IAEA clarifications before “completing” its response. That could take a while.



    Touro Institute on Human Rights and the Holocaust Director Anne Bayefsky on the significance of the U.N. vote to lift international sanctions on Iran. Photo: Getty Images
    Only if Iran’s “explanations do not resolve the IAEA’s concerns” may the IAEA then “request access” to the suspect site. Oddly, the agreement doesn’t specify who judges whether the explanations resolve concerns. If Iran claims that it has a say in the matter, the process may stall here. Assuming Iran grants that the IAEA can be the judge, might Iran claim that the “great Satan” improperly influenced IAEA conclusions? Let’s assume that Tehran won’t do that.

    Now the IAEA must provide written reasons for the request and “make available relevant information.” Let’s assume that even though the IAEA may resist revealing the secret sources or technical means that prompted its suspicions, Iran acknowledges that a proper request has been supplied.

    Only then do the supposed 24 days begin to run. First, Iran may propose, and the IAEA must consider, alternative means of resolving concerns. This may take 14 days. Absent satisfactory “arrangements,” a new period begins.

    During this period Iran, “in consultation with” the Joint Commission, will “resolve” the IAEA concerns “through necessary means agreed between Iran and the IAEA.” The Joint Commission includes China, France, Germany, Russia, the U.K, the U.S., the European Union and, of course, Iran. Not exactly a wieldy bunch.

    The Iranians will likely claim that “consultation” with the Joint Commission doesn’t bind Tehran, just as the U.S. president isn’t bound by consultations with Congress. The agreement says the consultation process will not exceed seven days, but Iran can point out that the nuclear deal doesn’t specify when Iran and the IAEA must reach agreement and “resolve” IAEA concerns.

    In the absence of Iran-IAEA agreement, a majority of the Joint Commission has seven days to “advise” on the “necessary means” to resolve the matter. Iran may fairly argue that the commission’s right to “advise” is not the same as a right to “determine” the “necessary means.” Lastly, the agreement provides that “Iran would implement the necessary means within 3 additional days.” But what “necessary means” are these? As noted, the agreement refers to “necessary means agreed between Iran and the IAEA.” So these additional three days don’t even begin until an agreement is reached.

    Now what? Well, the U.S. may take a “Dispute” to the Joint Commission, on which Iran sits, which has 15 days to resolve the issue. Parties may or may not invoke a similar 15 days for foreign ministers to act. Parties may also request a nonbinding opinion within 15 days from an advisory board consisting of three members, one appointed by Iran, one by the complaining country and “a third independent member.”

    But Iran may argue that nothing in the nuclear deal specifies how quickly a country must appoint its advisory-board member or even how the “independent member” is selected. In short, this stage may take at least 30 days and possibly 45 of consideration at the different levels, but Iran may argue that the last 15 days don’t start until an advisory board has been duly formed. Then we get another five days of Joint Commission deliberation, before a disappointed U.S. or other commission member seeking IAEA inspections can hobble off to the United Nations seeking resolutions reimposing sanctions.


    http://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-inspections-in-24-days-not-even-close-1437521911
     
  4. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Good riddance to bad rubbish.
     
  5. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Shows the value of an LSU education
     
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  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Any delays they make only delays the lifting of the sanctions. And if they delay so much as to piss everybody off and violate the agreement, the sanctions will snap back.
     
  8. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Well of course, just like that. ;)
     
  9. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Maybe it's a set up. Like entrapment. We give them the toys, knowing they will play with and boom now we have our reason to start a war with them. Ok maybe boom wasn't the best word to use, but you get my drift.
     
  10. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    i guess you thought this was a valid source because it is wsj. sorry, but posting scooter's crap is worthless. although i would concede that 3 months delay would still not be an issue.
     

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