Clippers Owner makes racist comments

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  1. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    so you are going to create a phantom issue, instead of dealing with the one at hand, nice diversion.
    the product itself is about a team, guys from different backgrounds coming together for a common bond. Its really that simple. JJ Redick and Chris Paul hated each other in college, but they ball together now for one simple reason, to win.
     
  2. Cajun Sensation

    Cajun Sensation I'm kind of a big deal Staff Member

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    A lifetime ban isn't so bad when you're 81.
     
  3. Bengal B

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    I'm predicting he will fight it. The ensuing legal fight will give his life meaning and purpose during his last years. My first step would be to find some judge to issue an injunction against the NBA from enforcing its decision. Then I would continue to run the team and show up at games all the while my lawyers and the NBA's lawyers are burying each other in paper.

    I have no sympathy for the miserable old bastard but its pretty Orwellian for a recording made surreptitiously in the privacy of his home on Friday is all over the internet by Saturday morning and three days later he is forced out of the league.
     
  4. GregLSU

    GregLSU LSUFANS.com

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    His politics have been known for at least a decade, and has done much worse like housing discrimination and comments made towards blacks and latinos when speaking about why he wouldn't rent to them. Why all of a sudden does the NBA care and take action? What he said in the illegal recording is tame compared to those comments in the past. One reason... new commish has to show his new found powers.
     
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  5. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    I agree, David Stern allowed it.
     
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    Larry Bird and Magic Johnson once hated each other. They never played together except for the 1992 Olympic Dream Team but they became best of friends. I don't think that any of their animosity toward each other was ever racial in their own minds but the fans might have viewed it differently.
     
  7. LSUMASTERMIND

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    thats my point guys get over whatever their issues are on the court and in the locker room for the most part.
     
  8. GregLSU

    GregLSU LSUFANS.com

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    Of course they hated each other... they were rivals on the 2 powerhouse teams back in their day... an extreme heated rivalry can make it difficult to be friends. Especially for alpha male competitors. Once the competition is gone, and age sets in... well friendships usually come out of it.
     
  9. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    I could really careless if the guy is immoral. If it bothers those around him then stop working for or lining his pockets. This whole ordeal will only drive the price up when he "decides" to sell.
     
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  10. Cajun Sensation

    Cajun Sensation I'm kind of a big deal Staff Member

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    Didn't know where to put this, so I'll put it here.

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/

    Are White Republicans More Racist Than White Democrats?
    By NATE SILVER and ALLISON MCCANN

    The comments made by Cliven Bundy and Donald Sterling this month demonstrate that the U.S. is far from a colorblind society. And the reaction to their comments has drawn further attention to the fraught relationship between racism and partisan politics. When racist statements by high-profile figures are made public, some news commentators become preoccupied withtrying to discern the speaker’s political affiliation.

    We were curious about the long-term trends in racial attitudes as expressed by Americans in polls. Are Republicans more likely to give arguably racist responses in surveys than Democrats? Have the patterns changed since President Obama took office in 2009?

    Like The New York Times’ Amanda Cox, we looked at a variety of questions on racial attitudes in the General Social Survey, which has been conducted periodically since 1972. The difference is that we looked at the numbers for white Democrats and white Republicans specifically, based on the way Americans identified themselves in the survey.1 Our focus was only on racial attitudes as expressed by white Americans toward black Americans (of course, racism can also exist between and among other racial groups).

    Two warnings about this data. First, survey responses are an imperfect means of evaluating racism. Social desirability bias may discourage Americans from expressing their true feelings. Furthermore, the sample of Democrats and Republicans in the survey is not constant from year to year. If the partisan gap in racial attitudes toward blacks has widened slightly in the past few years, it may be because white racists have become more likely to identify themselves as Republican, and not because those Americans who already identified themselves as Republican have become any more racist.

    We looked at eight questions from the General Social Survey. First, how many white Americans say they wouldn’t consider voting for a black presidential candidate? In the 2010 edition of the survey, the most recent version to ask this question, 6 percent of white Republicans and 3 percent of white Demorcats said they would not. However, it’s possible that these responses have something to do with Obama himself. In 2008, when Obama was a candidate rather than a president, the numbers were about equal among Republicans and Democrats. And at earlier times, white Democrats were more likely than white Republicans to say they wouldn’t vote for a black president. In 1988, for instance, when Jesse Jackson was running for the Democratic nomination, 23 percent of white Democrats said they wouldn’t vote for a black president, compared to 19 percent of white Republicans.2

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    We can also look at whites’ willingness to express negative feelings about blacks. From 1990 to 2008, white Republicans were just slightly more likely than white Democrats to say they considered blacks to be more “unintelligent” than “intelligent.” However, the numbers have fallen over time, and the small partisan gap erased itself in the past two surveys, 2010 and 2012, under Obama’s presidency.

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    Another question asked respondents whether they regard blacks as more “lazy” or “hard-working.” White Republicans are slightly more likely than white Democrats to characterize blacks as “lazy,” and the numbers haven’t changed much over time.

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    A related question asked respondents whether they think blacks lack the motivation to pull themselves out of poverty. The numbers on this one are high: In the 2012 survey, 57 percent of white Republicans and 41 percent of white Democrats agreed with the statement. This is also one question where the partisan gap has increased since Obama took office.

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    What about more personal attitudes toward interactions with African-Americans? A longstanding question on the survey has asked whites whether they’d object to a close relative marrying a black person. The percentage of white people saying so has fallen drastically over time, to 20 percent of white Democrats and 27 percent of white Republicans as of 2012. In 1990, by contrast, 65 percent of white Democrats and 71 percent of white Republicans said they’d object to an interracial marriage of a close relative.

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    Another question asked respondents whether they’d object to living in a half-black neighborhood. As with the marriage question, the number of white Americans saying they would object has fallen quite a bit since the 1990s. There generally hasn’t been much of a partisan gap on this question.

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    Since 1996, the survey has also asked respondents whether they feel “close” to blacks. Closeness is obviously a subjective quality, and failing to feel close to those in another racial group doesn’t necessarily imply racism. However, a survey question like this one may also be able to pick up on implicit racial attitudes that respondents would feel less comfortable asserting in questions about things like interracial marriage.

    This question, in contrast to many of the others, has shown little change over time. It has also shown little partisan gap, although the number of white Republicans saying they don’t feel close to blacks has increased some since Obama took office.

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    A final question asked Americans whether they think society spends too much money trying to improve the conditions of blacks. This is the most overtly political of the questions that we’ll study. It also shows the largest partisan gap of any of the questions, and one that has increased since Obama took office.

    In 2012, 32 percent of white Republicans said they thought society was spending too much money trying to improve blacks’ conditions, compared to just 9 percent of white Democrats. However, it’s important to note that some of the partisan gap may reflect attitudes toward government spending, rather than toward African-Americans specifically. For example, in 2012, 16 percent of white Republicans, but just 1 percent of white Democrats, said they thought the U.S. was spending too much money on trying to improve the education system.

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    Obviously, measuring racism is challenging – through surveys or by other means. If you take the question about voting for a black president as the best indicator of racism, then only about 5 percent of white Americans admit to racism toward blacks. If you regard the question about whether blacks lack motivation as indicative of racial antipathy, then about half of them do.

    We combined the responses from the eight questions into one index of negative racial attitudes. We accomplished this by averaging the number of white Americans who provided the arguably racist response to each survey item, extrapolating the value for years in which the General Social Survey didn’t ask a particular question based on the long-term trend in responses to it.

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