Climate Skeptics See 'Smoking Gun' in Researchers' Leaked E-Mails

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    hey red, i think you should re-examine your position on global warming. i know you like to follow the polls, and they increasingly show the moderates in this country are not fooled. perhaps your precious middle ground lies between crazed cap and trade alarmists like obama and wild flat-out right wing deniers. so you are in the middle with a prudent view that the globe is probably warming, but it isnt cause for alarm or any new laws. perfectly balanced prudent and unprincipled, just the way you like it.
     
  2. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Richard S. Lindzen: The Climate Science Isn't Settled - WSJ.com
    “Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning, and suburban housing – are not sustainable.” – Maurice Strong, Rio Earth Summit

    “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?” – Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme

    “Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.” – Prof Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University

    “The big threat to the planet is people: there are too many, doing too well economically and burning too much oil.” – Sir James Lovelock, BBC Interview

    “My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.” -Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

    “We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public’s imagination… So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts… Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.” – Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many IPCC reports

    “Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.” – Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC
     
  3. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Excessive hot air.

    You think?

    Evidence that a 2 degree increase in temperature has a minimal impact? I don't know. Maybe the fact that the planet is billions of years old and it's still here?
     
  4. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Just a thought, How does our Carbon make other planets Ice caps melt such as Mars?
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    NO, NO, NO!

    How many times do I have to say it. 2 degrees of climate change is NOT the same as two degrees of temperature. The climate has not varied over 1 degree of climate change in 2000 years!

    And most of that time it was uninhabitable. It will be so again, in time. We can either hurry it or delay it.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I'll just pretend you never said that . . .
     
  7. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    That's assuming you know which to do.

    What if an ice age is around the corner and we are preventing it by having global warming. I'd say we just delayed the uninhabitable.

    Saying global warming is a bad thing is like trying to know if God has good intentions or bad.
     
  8. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Potato Potahto. Those "experts" have irreversibly phuked up your brain.

    Human effect = pissing in the ocean

    :D:D
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    This is the only comment that remotes approaches your statement that "the premise made by the man made crowd that the earth will end unless we go back to the stone age."

    Here is the comment in context and it is clear that it is a rhetorical remark concerning an imaginary scenario. Let me point out also that it DOES NOT mention "returning to the stone age", nor that "the earth will end". None of your citations did.

     
  10. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Yeah Sourdough. He's not advocating the collapse of industrialized civilzation. He's advocating Socialism.
     

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