Clemens to be outed today on steroid charges

While I share your empathy for the barefoot among us, you gotta admit, Shoeless Miguel Tejada just don't have the same ring to it as Shoeless Joe Jackson.:hihi:

 

This is why I can't bring myself to want to watch baseball. The entire league is an embarassment to pro sports. I guess you have blame Selig for this but you also have to blame the president of the Player's Association.

 

Put yourself in the position of a player and consider this WHAT IF.....?

What if your name is on "the list." You're guilty in the eyes of many or most.

But.....you didn't do it. Ever.

What do you do ? Do you sue the person(s) who implicated you ? Do you take advantage of every opportunity to try to clear you name in the media ? Do you return to the ballyard and keep quiet and let folks think whatever they choose ? Or do you just call it quits ?

Not suggesting that anyone is on the list is innocent OR guilty. I really don't know although some sure appear obvious. Been thinking about what I'd do in the previously described situation and I honestly don't know right now.

 

not a lawsuit fan, but you have to. if you take pride in your game you will fight it until the end. of course most prob did roids so its a moot point.

 

I dont think we have to worry about the "what if's". The same reason why Clemens attorney didnt mention a word about law suite is the exact same reason you wont see any, they are all guilty as hell. Once they sue the other side has the right of discovery and its probably MUCH, MUCH worse than Mitchell depicted. The last thing these cheating scumbags want is more skeletons revealed in their closet.

I doubt you see any law suites, nadda.

 

You wont unless some dude is actually clean, but he probably smokes weed...everyone has something on them.

You are right, they wont sue as they are all guilty and know if it goes to court they will eventually have to name people, and the players are practically protecting each other.

MLB knew this, and people thought there was going to be a lot of backlash. But MLB, while they may be the dumbest pro sport, they still have some smart lawyers and realized the players couldn't do much more than complain and would most likely get good practice at saying "collective bargaining" without it getting them anywhere.

 

I did not have sexual relations with andy pettitte. Or Brad Ausmus.



Lance Berkman was right:

Houston Astros first baseman Lance Berkman said former teammate Andy Pettitte's confession of HGH use puts pressure on Roger Clemens to speak publicly on the matter, the Houston Chronicle reported Monday.
Berkman said Clemens' denial through his lawyer wasn't good enough after Pettitte's admission, the newspaper reported.

"I'm not insinuating the allegations are true just because Pettitte came out and said the trainer was telling the truth about him," Berkman said, the Chronicle reported. "I'm just saying it puts more pressure on the (Clemens) camp to specifically deny charges.

"I don't think it's good enough to make a blanket statement and say the guy's lying. Now that Andy's come out, that certainly puts a little more pressure to come out and make a more detailed statement."

Berkman said he is still close friends with Pettitte and said he called the lefty after the Mitchell Report came out and again before Pettitte made his statement Saturday.

"Like I told him (Saturday), 'You've got an opportunity to really show people how to stand up and tell the truth when everybody would tell you to hide behind lawyers,' and that's the kind of guy he is," Berkman said, the newspaper reported.


Clemens is still hiding behind his lawyer however. Taking a stand but still speaking thru him. Wheres the grand jury when you need it.

 

clemens is now definitely "all in" whether he knows it or not.

congress is sticking its nose into the investigation once again (what a joke and waste). There will be inquiries. They'll be under oath. He will have the opportunity - and obligation - to testify.

Where does this lead? Well - one route is to issue an emphatic denial, which could take him where Barry Bonds is right now.

Or, he can hedge and hem and haw, like Mark McGwire - which might get him off the hook in a court of law but amounts to a confession in the court of public opinion...especially now, since he's shot off his mouth and vigorously, publicly proclaimed his innocence.

The third route, obviously, is to deny it and be telling the truth. This is the only way he's getting into the Hall of Fame.


The question is, can he pull it off?