CALM DOWN!!

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  1. JP4LSU

    JP4LSU Founding Member

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    I think many of us need to take a deep breath and relax.
    Did most of us actually believe we were going to beat UF after seeing us struggle with MSU and a very average Georgia team, much less Washington and Vandy playing us close in the 1st half.

    Thoughts:
    J. Jefferson-needs to make decisions quicker but I don't think he deserves so much of the blame. The running game hasn't been there because of the OL. Thus much pressure is put on the QB and if the OL can't run block then they surely can't pass block against a crazy good UF defense.

    OL - The are the biggest issue with the offense IMO. If you can't establish a run game, the game rests on the QB. I don't think JJ can handle that right now because he needs to make quicker and better reads and the OL isn't giving him enough time.

    Def - they have greatly improved and looked good last night and against UGA. However, UF was being super conservative and running the ball in the 1st half up the middle. Once they started letting Tebow make plays and passing, the LSU D was exposed some, understandbly. They got screwed with the TD pass which was obviously Offensive Pass Interference.

    Coaching - I can't believe there are people wanting to rid of Crowton. All of a sudden he is a bad OC after losing to the best team and best D in the country? Get a grip. He is an excellent play caller but has his hands tied with a poor running offense. That hurts a whole lot.

    Just my opinions. I expected us to lose this game from the way LSU has played in other games. But I was given false hope in the 1st half when UF was being conservative and the Tiger D held.

    The Defense was obviously the best performer. They were on the field the entire 2nd half and for long drives by UF and our Offense didn't help them at all. I felt bad for the LSU D because they deserved the win.
     
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  2. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    I was pleasantly surprised that we played Florida as closely as we did. With the way we'd played the first 5 games, I believed it was a really tall order to beat Florida.

    On the other hand, this team is playing with determination and grit which was noticeably lacking last season.

    Our offense was awful last night and put our defense in horrible positions. Still, it was a close game. That actually exceeded my expectations.

    Our lines, though, are a big, big problem.
     
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  3. houtiger

    houtiger Founding Member

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    Hit the nail on the head!

    Calling for a new OC is absurd at this point. Was it ugly, yes. Consider who we played, and what our talent and experience at the QB position is. New OC is not the right answer. Remember the 08 NCG. Give Gary the talent, and he'll make us happy.

    Sheesh, you'd think we just lost to Alabama-Birmingham, or UL-Monroe!!!

    Stacey, I liked your post also. Some voices of reason.
     
  4. JayB

    JayB Never Forget 31

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    it's been much more than this one game. it's been alllllll season. i knew LSU would lose to florida, so i'm not disappointed in the loss. what i AM disappointed in is the friggin' offense. complete waste of talent. let's let sean payton or drew brees give our coaches some lessons on how to throw the ball. LSU can't run the ball, so why not throw? who cares if it's not balanced! if we go up there and throw the ball a hundred times, i PROMISE you we come out of this game with more than 3 points.
     
  5. houtiger

    houtiger Founding Member

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    I'd say that depends on whose throwing, and whose blocking on the o-line.
     
  6. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    It's just like politics, you have to ignore the few extremists on both ends of the spectrum. I don't think many fans are calling for Crowtons head and if you limit your poll to people over the age of 21 that have actually been around to see more than just the last 10 years of LSU football the number gets even much smaller.

    That being said it is blatantly obvious that there is much wrong with this offense and it appears that a good portion of the problem is not the players. Is it Miles? Is it Crowton? None of us know for sure, but someone needs to get under the hood and get this thing fixed. Neither Crowton nor Miles have gone from genius to dunce over night. But they need to get their heads out of their arse and start making progress. I suggest going back to what worked the last two seasons. They are not running the same offense this year for sure.
     
  7. JayB

    JayB Never Forget 31

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    no changes. exact same personnel. throw the ball and let your receivers make plays. i guarantee you we'd get more than three points. :wink:

    but jefferson, for whatever reason, has terrible timing. the o-line could give him 20 minutes to throw the ball and he probably still find a way to take a sack. i'm not convinced that jarrett lee could be any worse. all i know is that we need to do something with our offense. something. anything. :)
     
  8. JP4LSU

    JP4LSU Founding Member

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    That is why we haven't put up many points this year because we are so unbalanced and have to pass the ball. JJ can't handle that pressure and that responsibility. I like JJ and I like that he doesn't make bad decisions down field which is a great attribute of his. But he is taking too long to make a decision and the OL is not giving him the time either. Not having a running game hurts us the most. The OL is holding the offense back.

    Think about it......if the running game isn't there, which eats up a lot of clock, then you have to throw all the time. Well 40% of the time these are incompletes which stop the clock. That forces our defense to be on the field longer if the passing game isn't keeping us moving down the field.

    As far as play calling, I think there was a lot to be desired last night. There needs to be quick routes, more screens, which will remove some pressure from JJ. Even do some planned runs with the QB to get him pumped up and motivated.

    So yes the play calling can improve, but I'm not ready to unload Crowton. He has proven his worth in the past. I think LSU not having a run game has really hindered the playcalling.
     
  9. houtiger

    houtiger Founding Member

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    I would like to see us try a little something different. I would start JJ, but I would like to see a different QB get some playing time against Auburn and La. Tech so we have a warmed up change of pace ready for Bama if we need it. I'd hate to see us make a change in a game where that QB has not played any significant time this season. I don't think that would be fair to him. We got 2 games to get ready.
     
  10. BostonBengal

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    I agree, too. 2 seasons ago, when LSU was blowing VT out of Tiger Stadium and Flynn was throwing winning-TD passes with no time on the clock, everyone was claiming Crowton an offensive genius!

    So what? All of a sudden he doesn't know what he's doing??? Don't buy it.

    You can't ask a player to do something great when he's having trouble doing the little things.

    If I'm Crowton, WHY would I pull all these tricks out of my hat when I'm watching an offensive group that can't even run goalline offense and convert 1 yard on a consistant basis???
     

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