Vote Now! California's water problem

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Is the California drought a direct result of climate change?

  1. Well most climate scientists agree so yes

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  2. Wild guess yes

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  3. Yes you'd have to be an idiot to think it's not

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  4. No, climate change hasn't had anything to do with it

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  5. No there is not enough data to support this claim

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  6. No, Climate change is a hoax

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  7. Wild guess No

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  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    why did you answer the way you did?
     
    LaSalleAve, Apr 2, 2015
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  2. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Wild guess no.

    Because it's a wild guess
     
    shane0911, Apr 2, 2015
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    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Oh boy. Climate change!!

    Question. Can anyone answer how much CO2 is apart of our atmosphere? 0.04%

    You tell me LaSalle. Can the human cause increase in CO2 make it rain less and hotter?

    What about 99.96% of all the other shit in the atmosphere?
     
    LSUpride123, Apr 2, 2015
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  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The California drought is a direct result of people living in an arid climate and trying to grow crops like it was in Louisiana where it rains every afternoon. Irrigation is extensive in the Valley and consumes obscene amounts of public water that allow California farmers to compete with the Midwest. There would be plenty of water for the people and even for their green lawns if agriculture did not suck up so much of it. They rob irrigation water from all over the mountains and even into Nevada and Arizona, mostly at government expense.

    The continued lack of snowfall to fill the reservoirs is definitely a result of global warming, but poor planning is the base cause of California's water issues.
     
    red55, Apr 2, 2015
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Why do you imagine that this is an insignificant amount. This should be fun.

    Poor question. AGW most assuredly can raise global temperatures which cause climate changes. Not necessarily less rain, but changing precipitation patterns that mean less rain in some areas where they depend on it. In California's case, warming results in less snowfall accumulation in the Sierra Nevada, which they have become dependent upon to fill the reservoirs every spring.

    What about it? Nitrogen and oxygen are not greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide is a very potent one. We are experiencing the highest concentration of carbon in the atmosphere in the last 800,000 years (ice cores are very precise) and likely the highest in 20 million years (geochemical analysis requiring some inference).[/QUOTE]
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It is for you, maybe.
     
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  7. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    Wow, I agree with the liberal! I need a drink! There are also very large population areas that consume insane amounts of H2O.
     
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  8. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    A: I never used the word insignificant
    B: Make a point

    It's not a poor question. YOU just don't have an answer.

    CO2 is not the primary driver of climate.
     
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  9. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Yea you vote in the threadd and specifically disregard the other request.

    Why did you vote the way you did?
     
    LSUpride123, Apr 2, 2015
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  10. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    Agreed on lack of snowfall but not so much on global warming as the cause.

    "It's important to note that California's drought, while extreme, is not an uncommon occurrence for the state," said Richard Seager, the report's lead author and professor with Columbia University's Lamont Doherty Earth Observatory. The report was sponsored by theNational Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The report did not appear in a peer-reviewed journal but was reviewed by other NOAA scientists.

    "In fact, multiyear droughts appear regularly in the state's climate record, and it's a safe bet that a similar event will happen again," he said......
    The persistent weather pattern over the past several years has featured a warm, dry ridge of high pressure over the eastern north Pacific Ocean and western North America. Such high-pressure ridges prevent clouds from forming and precipitation from falling.

    The study notes that this ridge — which has resulted in decreased rain and snowfall since 2011 — is almost opposite to what computer models predict would result from human-caused climate change."

    Poor planning doesn't help much and neither does Moonbeam's blind eye to fracking in the midst of a drought.
    "California oil producers used 214 acre-feet of water, equivalent to nearly 70 million gallons, in the process of fracking for oil and gas in the state last year". That's not much considering how much of a water shortage there is but when he mandates certain behaviors but will not address fracking, it pisses me off.
     
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