Calderon is a Hypocrite!

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  1. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    perhaps, but he could have come out against the troops on the border. i suppose, though, that there would still be only negative comments about it. lose-lose.
     
  2. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    Yes, it is a lose-lose, because he is not concerned with his citizens violating our borders to the tune of thousands/day. Saying he supports troops on the border that are only there for stopping drug cartel activity is great, but it is a fragment of the problem. Do murders, kidnappings, and drugs make for splashier headlines? Sure, but it is a symptom of the problem called illegal immigration. And that is not a concern for him. Any more than it has been for our president or congress, past or present.
     
  3. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    of course he supports anything that will possibly help with the problems of drug cartels. they are a huge problem in mexico, so that is nothing more than letting the US help take care of his problem. this has nothing to do with supporting any US govt policy, and everything to do with recognizing what will help his own govt.

    wait, so its our fault his hell hole has a problem with drug cartels?

    yeah, we wouldnt want to detain those breaking the law.

    and i like how he's whining to the canadians about it. :rolleye33:

    Mexico backs U.S. border troops plan in principle - Yahoo! News
     
  4. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    You know what I think is interesting is the whole businessmen hiring illegals angle. Here in Houston there are quite a few illegals working. Shocking I know. Anyway, I am sure some or maybe even many businessmen see the angle of low wages, etc, but several that I know claim that getting "legal" immigrants in is quite tough unless they have a skill that is deemed "valuable" by immigration authorities.

    I have never really explored this but curious if anyone else has heard about this difficulty? For example, many dishwashers in restaurants here are Hispanic, and I imagine several are illegal. It's not a great job, doesn't pay much and certainly doesn't require great skill, but it is pretty important to a restaurant. I doubt immigration is bending over backwards to let dishwashers or migrant workers in the country.

    Seems this would be the easiest part of the problem to address by congress. Plenty of congressmen have floated the idea of a work visa of some sort for these guys. Is it really that hard to regulate?
     
  5. PURPLE TIGER

    PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

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    There are special classes, including H1B visas which allow workers to enter the U.S. Many employers claim they can't find workers but that's not always the case. What they won't say is the type of worker they're looking for. Many want someone who will work under the table, for low (or below minimum) wages, without labor rights, and those who can be hired/fired without a paper trail.

    The last time we allowed a ton of people to come here as workers they quickly moved to higher paying positions in home building and service-related jobs. Later lawsuits were filed allowing these workers to bring their entire family into the country. That's when their benefit becomes a huge burden.

    Many of these employers claim they can't find Americans to do the job when they really mean they can't find someone to do it for next to nothing. There's a lot of greed when discussing the hiring of illegal aliens.
     
  6. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    the businesses have to pay about $5000 to get someone on an H1 visa (atleast that was the word in grad school a few years ago). doubt theyll do that for wage workers.

    dont know if there is a decent reason to charge $5000.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    That's what the lawyer costs. Immigrant grad students with prospects for 70K right out of school will spend the $5000 on the shyster to do the complex court appeals paperwork. Sometimes their prospective employer will pay the bill to get an employee that they want. But lettuce pickers from Chihuahua can't afford the legal horsepower it takes.
     
  8. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    I can tell you that when i worked as a bartender at Chili's in the D/FW area, there were guys who would work for a few months, go back to mexico, and then come back with a totally different name and work for a few months, go back and then come back with another different name. I know that hispanics make up about 65 or so percent of the restaurant workforce in this country and i would venture to say that about 10-15% of those are illegals.
     
  9. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    Will have to ask a few restaurateurs what they have been told. The guys I am talking about are not looking for low wage earners, but actual legal workers. I have just been told it is a colossal pain to get them in legally.
     
  10. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    All of my tile guys are mexican. The best on that I use is Alonzo. Alonzo is from Chihuahua. He is legal and is usually knocking on my door around January 7 wanting his 1099 (he calls it his paper). He pays his taxes as fast as he can. He wants no trouble from uncle sam.
     

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