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What I meant was it's implementation would be it's downfall. Republicans aren't about tricks. It's why they're not in the best place politically at the time being. For the most part, they're upfront and forthcoming. Obama now, that's how HE rolls. Surely you've seen the magnitude of deceit and lies.

Not gonna happen. It's become clear to me that he can't even begin to be objective.

 

your taking an extremely narrow approach to this and I believe you are a bit blinded by partisanship. the individual mandate is about the only viable way to implement universal health care without creating a single payer system that is actually government run health care.

regarding your "proof" comments, I could also say the same to you: prove it that these members of congress did not read the legislation.

 

Regarding implementation we can go back and forth as to whether it's implementation will be it's downfall but we will all know for certain soon enough. I will remember this comment and sometime next year we'll see who was closer to being correct.

Republicans are not about tricks? Talk about a lack of objectivity. Sorry pal but that dog just won't hunt. I'll use an example about universal health care since we have been discussing it lately: Republicans, since the early 80's when the universal health care debate really heated up, have advocated the use of an individual mandate. This idea was born straight out of the Heritage Foundation and was championed by Newt Gingrich and every other prominent republican during the 90's as their answer to Hillary wanting a single payer, government run health care system. Further, during the 2008 elections John McCain advocated an individual mandate during his debates with Obama. The whole reason that Republicans wanted the individual mandate was because it would preserve the private health insurance industry and have less of an effect on the entire health/medical system as opposed to a government take over of health insurance. Then, when Obama introduces Obamacare and it looked like he was going to pass it through the congress and senate and eventually sign the legislation into law, the Republicans suddenly took a populist approach and slammed the individual mandate for "forcing" people to buy health care. I don't know how I can make the Republicans tricks any more apparent than this. You don't have to believe me.....go back and do your homework and see for yourself. Republicans have done nothing but play tricks and parliamentary games for the past five years and our economy and everything else has suffered as a result of the gridlock that their trickery has created.

 

The thing that really pisses me off is that Obama ran TWO freaking terms on this shit and then stalls it him self.

Whether or not this bill does anything, if you are a sane person that voted for him, you have to question this idea of "transparency and hope N change".

 

I would call that person a realist who knows that the Heritage Foundation is a right-wing think tank whose purpose is not objectivity nor clarity. And it isn't too far a stretch to call someone a partisan who is willing to publish propaganda from a right-wing organization.

 

Refute what exactly, McTiger? The points made by a blogger on the Heritage Foundation? Which, by the way, is filled with inaccuracies like, "most states have elected not to create insurance exchanges...." when actually the total number is 17. Seriously, McTiger? You can't even formulate your own argument against something that you supposedly hate so badly? I find that hard to believe. You are asking me to argue with someone else, who by the way is a piss poor selection if you are going to get me to argue with someone else. You say that the implementation will be a train wreck so tell me why!

If you really think that our healthcare, which makes up 20% of our overall economy, doesn't need repairing then you deserve to have nothing better. Obamacare might not be the end all solution, but it's a start and I'll take that over sitting on my hands and paying higher and higher premiums every year.

 

That's what I mean about him. I just told him he seems to lose focus or something. I initially accused him of trying to spin but really think it's something more. It's also why I'm going to leave him alone. Mom always told us not to pick on less fortunate people.