Brady in the Hot Seat

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  1. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    No, you want to know what is insane?
    Its people like you who have an attitude towards LSU basketball.
    I'll never understand why people think LSU basketball can't be any good.
    We could never be like Butler, Gonzaga or the smaller schools that have developed good basketball programs could we?:rolleye33:
    LSU was a basketball school before Florida was.
    LSU was a basketball school when football was bad.
    LSU was a basketball school with success in the 80's.
    LSU was a basketball school before LSU was a baseball school.
    LSU basketball has as much history and tradition when you consider all the NBA players and college records.

    I just don't get it?:huh::dis:
     
  2. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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  3. Tom Callender

    Tom Callender Founding Member

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    Tiger Rag is saying Brady is as good as gone... may last the year out but thats the limit.. Matt Deville -Senior Editor - is the source
     
  4. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    i think the point is (at least my point is) not that its technically impossible, but if it were that easy every one would do it. why can you count on one hand (actually, one finger) top bball and fball schools (UF). all others, like Tx, Ok, Wisc, OhSt are unstable---like LSU.

    if it were easy, why doesnt Ark have a top program? they have $$$ and the best facilities in the nation.

    it can happen. it requires $$$ and a lot of luck. LSU will get rid of cjb and pick another coach---the odds are not great that they will pick the coach to make LSU as good in bball as UF.
     
  5. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    You know this reminds me of something I've heard long ago through the dark years of LSU football.
    I always heard that if the right coach came along that LSU football could become a top program, I always heard the talent and the support were there.
    Joe Dean went through so many coaches that I don't have the patience to count them.
    Don't get me started on Joe Dean, I don't think he could pick good coaches if he had too, I consider the Saban hire included in the law of averages btw.

    I would ask you how do the smaller schools luck out and develop good programs, all I'm saying if Gonzaga, Butler, Florida can do it why not LSU?
    I think there is too much negativity around the LSU basketball program.
    Why not look at the other side of the glass, half full.
    Who the hell out of the SEC knew Florida had a basketball program five years ago anyway.

    I find it extremely funny that Sabanfan always has looked at the glass half full unless its about LSU basketball having success or becoming a top program?

    Arkansas did have a top program under Nolan Richardson, they were pretty darn good the same time as we were, Mayberry, Day, I still remember those guys.
    Arkansas is going through a down cycle right now like many schools do.
    LSU has been through this before and is going through this in basketball and baseball but at least their basketball team has won some conference games.
    We admit that even successful programs in football such as Miami and Fla State are also going through this.
    It can happen, yes, but as LSU fans we should be optimistic about the future of the program and that great things could happen one day.
    I don't know about big dollars, I wonder what the budgets of Gonzaga and other small schools are compared to LSU?

    I'm not trying to be a bad dude here.
    I have always loved LSU basketball equally to LSU football except in younger days.
    That is my problem, I've loved the Pistol Pete highlites and the CJ and Shaq.
    Keep in mind that I didn't watch LSU basketball in 1980 because I was fifteen years old, I didn't start watching basketball until 1982 when I was seventeen.
    We should be optimistic not pestimistic once Brady is gone.

    I'm not saying that a top tier basketball coach may come here but it seems to me with the history and legacy of LSU basketball, that some good coach may want to come here.

    Edit: The womens basketball team has been a top team and probably top program for years.
    It blows my mind the way some act towards the mens program.
     
  6. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    It was and it is. It's football. This is football country. You have boosters willing to fork over the big bucks to git'r done. You have Joe fan willing to pay up if that's what it takes to succeed.


    In other words, you don't like him and he'll get no credit for anything he did right.


    Except for Florida, they are basketball schools. Florida may sustain their success, but fans will tolerate lean years. They won't in football.


    A lot of people have never liked Brady and still don't. Even during winning seasons, he was not a widely popular figure. People wanted a season like this to come along.

    I'm a realist. It is what it is. Basketball is a stop gap to get us to the spring game and baseball.

    Why are they in a "down cycle",yet LSU is hopelessly mediocre? Can't it be that we are going through a down cycle as well?


    I don't pay too much attention to college hoops, but doesn't Gonzaga suck this year?


    Yeah. The glory years of LSU Basketball. NIT, or NCAA and one and done.

    You missed about the only 3 years that we could be considered a power.


    That would be great, but the good coaches out there don't want to labor in the shadow of Tiger Football.
     
  7. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    Much like your gift for putting the bees in Sourdoughman's bonnett...

    :hihi:
     
  8. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Moi? :confused: :hihi:
     
  9. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    I think it's harder to sustain excellence in basketball because if you have a couple down years in recruiting and injuries, no amount of coaching will make up for the talent loss. Each player on the court is critical at all times. Too easy to find yourself outmanned in a big way. Add a coach who's lost the fans, and it's over.

    Brady's had eleven years. Buh-bye.

    I think LSU could be a basketball school - but the AD would have to direct a lot of time, $$$, and attention to compete. There are other schools with respectable football and basketball programs - Ohio State, for instance. Michigan. Florida recently. Arkansas at times. UCLA occassionally puts a football team in the rankings. It can happen.

    Hell, LSU is a baseball school. And a women's basketball school. And a track and field school. And a volleyball school. Etc., etc. It definitely is possible.

    Picking Skip's replacement will tell a lot about how badly the school wants it to happen.
     
  10. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    OK, that might be a stretch - don't want vBall to scalp me.
     

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