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Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by LaSalleAve, Apr 9, 2013.

  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    No I agree, I don't think parents should be circumvented.
     
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  2. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Yeah, if I were taking your position I would avoid the question too.
     
  3. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Wait, are you implying that the "mass marketing of contraceptives" is somehow responsible for the rise in those thins? As if there was no market for contraceptives and the industry just forged ahead with their production anyway? That's absurd.
     
  4. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    No. What I am saying that statistically there is a counter-intuitive corollary between rise in contraceptive use and rise in rise in teen pregnancy, and rise in abortion. In many developing countries, birthrates increased after contraceptives were introduced. Similarly there is an increased incidencee in STDs since safe sex education became prominent. The aids epidemic in Africa is one example. If you go to a community where the UN did a condom drop, you will find a higher Aids rate than in a near by community where condoms were not made available.

    My point is these "solutions" encourage risky behavior and their use becomes counter productive.
     
  5. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    I have two daughters.

    I am their legal guardian. I believe I should have the right to know about this. After 17, however, I believe they would not have to share this with me, but then it becomes more of my problem and the relationship I would have with them.

    The thing I do not like about this shit is it gives kids a second chance. Not that a second chance isn't needed, but it allows immature kids to think they can do whatever they want without consequence and now they do not even have to tell their parents!!


    Again, I am not saying the pill "shouldn't" be sold to young kids, I am saying the parents should be FORCED to be involved at that age.


    Only my opinion..
     
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  6. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    But that doesn't mean that contraceptives were responsible for it. Birthrates more than likely would have increased regardless, and even moreso, had they not introduced contraceptives. You are trying to extrapolate complex sociological tendencies from a single, oversimplified bit of data.
    But it's not because of the prominence of safe sex education; it's the other way around. Sex education has become more common because of the rise of STDs.
    And that's probaly why they did the condom drop in the first place. I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that these communities would have experienced the higher AIDS rates regardless. You seem to be confused about the cause and effect here.

    Also, how do you explain the sharp decline in teen pregnancy rates in the U.S. in recent years? They reached an all-time low in 2010, yet marketing for contraceptives has only been more aggressive during that period. And how do you explain the fact that AIDS rates are so much higher within the black community, based on your argument?

    Just to be clear, are you saying that if we eliminated contraceptives and shelved sex education, that teen pregnancy, STDs, and divorce would all suddenly decline?
     
  7. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    I with you on this one Pride. 10 years old is entirely too young for the parents not to be involved in this decision.
     
  8. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    I was playing with legos at 10. I dont think I knew what a boob was.
     
  9. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    or because it became legal, you are reaching and using right to life talking points.
     
  10. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    No I am not.

    I am also not down with a 10 year old taking a pill and the parents not even knowing. It should be a law to inform the parents.
     

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