Billy Cannon on Jefferson

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  1. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    I can vouch for the fact that crawfish loves to eat boiled crawfish and that he is very good at boiling them to perfection. I assume that Red iis a red headed man because his avatar is the red headed Yosemite Sam.
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    orlandotiger GEAUX TIGERS!

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    OK after reading this whole thread, I have forgotten what it is about, but dang it is funny!

    And yes SF we women love you, but I hold some love for cali also!
     
  3. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    You cant be this delusional, this is the end of the quarterback discussions with you.
     
  4. LSU-SIU

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    Of course. You think someone playing decent for a quarter and a half makes them an All-American, I don't. The only one that is delusional is you. You think a quarter and a half makes a season or a career, us sane people don't believe that. He played decent or good for about a quarter and a half, that is it... nothing more and nothing less... doesn't prove anything other than GA Tech was physically being dominated up front on both sides of the ball.

    Lee looked like an All-American in the second half against Auburn, so what? Hatch was terrible, he wasn't going to throw the ball. They put Hatch in there with Scott than that crap didn't work when they went to SEC action and that was it. The coaches sealed the season in the first couple of games by putting Hatch in there to start with and wasting reps Lee needed to get ready for the SEC.

    This talk of Jefferson being the QB on week #1 of last year is nonsense.
     
  5. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    All roads point to Lee with you, which is ridiculous. Please point out where I said Jefferson was an All American? Oh thats right you cant, you are just making up shyt to make your post seem relevant which it is not, neither is your opinion. You are an apologist for Lee, it is simple as that. Its the coaches fault now because they didnt start Lee to begin with and thats what ruined him. That statement is the most idiotic thing you have said here and you havent even been here that long, so some of idiot speak you are going to need it down the road.
    How about this, the coaches didnt start Lee because he wasnt ready and when they had to play him, he showed flashes of a good QB, but also showed clearly that he was in over his head. To sit here and imply that its coaches fault that Lee threw 12 ints or whatever he threw, because they didnt start him is asinine.
    Jefferson perfomance does mean something, it showed his pose and his ability to make plays. If it didnt mean anything he wouldnt be starting right now.
    I dont know how else to explain that to you, if you cant understand that then oh well. Sucks to be you.

    This how your circular logic works and its really quite funny.

    Lee looked like an All American the second half of the Auburn game, but Jeffersons performance was the result of GT being dominated on both sides of the ball, so it doesnt mean much. Because he just did what the coaches told him to do like roll out passes and he never threw a TD from the pocket.

    Get back to me when you obtain some common sense.
     
  6. tigermark

    tigermark Rematches suck!

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    I am still of a mind to think that if Hatch would have stayed healthy we would have won more games with him in there as opposed to Lee. Having a dual threat QB makes that much of a difference. That is a huge "if" of course because the way Hatch played, he was destined for injury in SEC play. He was a little too small (muscle wise) to withstand the hits that he was bound to take running like he did. Brave guy that is for sure. I think that as the season progressed, he could have become more effective throwing the ball.

    Plus, I tend to go with "the coaches are probably not idiots for playing player X instead of Y" instead of "the coaches are idiots for playing player X instead of Y". The coaches tend to know what they are doing when they put in a player like Hatch instead of Lee. Think how much worse Lee could have been had they thrown him into the pressure even earlier. Looks to me that the coaches realized he was fragile and tried to protect him.

    See I knew this thread could be a Lee thread...
     
  7. LSU-SIU

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    No the point being Lee was not an All-American even if he was superman for a half and no Jefferson was not working from a huge hole.

    Jefferson did what he was told, which was mostly option plays and rollouts. He did a good job, SO WHAT?

    Well, I can say the same thing, what I am "delusional" about?
    Get back with me when you can figure it out.

    I have seen Jefferson play good for about a quarter and half, so what? Any talk of him taking over in week#1 of last year I am sorry is just nonsense.

    And yes GT was being dominated on both sides of the ball, I would say this is fact more than an opinion. He made some good runs, had some good rollouts and even complete a few in the pocket. So what? One quarter and a half, nothing more and nothing less. The rest of his time at QB in that game and the rest of the games he was in was "mehhhh". So what? To be honest LSU was just not a good team last year. Putting Jefferson in on week #1 of last year would have made what happen look good.

    And if LSU does the whole Scott up the middle on 1st and 2nd again this year in the first 4 games it will be another long year for LSU.
     
  8. LSUMASTERMIND

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    Dont tell him that, he knows more than the coaches and he knows that Lee should have started and they ruined him by not starting him. Oh its also the coaches fault that he threw so many ints.
     
  9. LSU-SIU

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    Hatch was about as much a dual threat QB as my grandmother is.

    That Scott up the middle wasn't and isn't going to work in the SEC without a passing option, Hatch was not it. He didn't want anything to do with throwing a football, which is why they went with the two QB scheme.
     
  10. LSUMASTERMIND

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    Once again, you are trying to make yourself look smarter than what you really are and its not working.
    Show me where I said Jefferson should have started week 1 last year, the article said that. Its a quote from Cannon, my initial post and some after that stated that Cannon was wrong in his opinion. But you convienently skipped over that to make yourself look good.

    And you continue to say "So what?" I'll tell you so what, it means that he is the starter per Les Miles, junior. It means, he limited his mistakes in the time that he saw. Here is a freebe, when LSU Qbs have managed the games and limited mistakes, we have won the majority of those games.
    It means that he won the starting job in camp.
     
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