Big Ten Conference to stop scheduling non-Division I Teams

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  1. Husker Ed

    Husker Ed Founding Member

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    Where did you get that I said whites don't get the same opportunity to play sports? I said that in the context of school. You keep making the same point. I got it. More blacks excel in sports than whites. I disagree that it is solely based on the fact that they are black. Please quit making it more than that.
     
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  2. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    That's racist man.
     
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  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Ahhh, political correctness. Sorry amigo, but I don't believe in it.

    Only I never said anything like that. I am talking about demographics, not individual achievements. The two finest athletes in SEC basketball history played at LSU. One was white (Pete Maravich) and one was black (Shaquille O'Neal) who also has earned his PhD. As individuals it is impossible to say that whites cannot achieve at the highest athletic levels. Likewise it is impossible to say that blacks cannot achieve at the highest academic levels. However entire populations show demographic trends.

    The fact remains that black athletes dominate football, basketball, and track. The fact remains that black people live mostly in the southeast. The fact remains that the SEC universities (which are 90% white) have teams that are 90% black.

    My point remains that the SEC benefits from these facts. It's not the only reason for SEC dominance, but it is a damned important one. It is neither bigoted nor racist to suggest this.
     
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  4. Husker Ed

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  5. Husker Ed

    Husker Ed Founding Member

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    And I'm sure this will bring the wrath of everyone down on me but there is no such thing as SEC dominance. The top half of the conference is GREAT. But Kentucky, Tennessee, etc. drew from the same pool of players and they were/are lousy.

    (And don't go to the Big Ten card -- I know it is behind the SEC in football and I am not defending the conference at all).
     
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  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Like Nebraska, many of our white players are walk-ons.

    In any conference there is going to be an upper and a lower half. But seven straight national championships is dominance. Averaging half of the conference in the top-25 is dominance. Kentucky and Vanderbilt are lower tier in football but upper tier in basketball. Schools have their preferences as where their priorities lie.

    I'll put the lower half of the SEC against the lower half of any conference.
     
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  7. Husker Ed

    Husker Ed Founding Member

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    All is good Red. You make some valid points. I don't want to debate this any further or get into the SEC dominance debate right now. We can save that for a slow summer day. Take care -- I'll see you down the road.
     
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  8. Tiger_fan

    Tiger_fan Veteran Member

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    just a reminder:

    SEC has won
    --3 of the last 7 National Titles in basketball
    --3 of the last 4 National Titles in baseball
    --7 of the last 7 National Titles in football

    ACC
    --2 of the last 7 National Titles in basketball
    --0 of the last 4 National Titles in baseball
    --0 of the last 7 National Titles in football

    Pac 12 has won
    --0 of the last 7 National Titles in basketball
    --1 of the last 4 National Titles in baseball
    --0 of the last 7 National Titles in football

    Big 12
    --1 of the last 7 National Titles in basketball
    --0 of the last 4 National Titles in baseball
    --0 of the last 7 National Titles in football

    Big East
    --1 of the last 7 National Titles in basketball
    --0 of the last 4 National Titles in baseball
    --0 of the last 7 National Titles in football

    Big Ten
    --0 of the last 7 National Titles in basketball
    --0 of the last 4 National Titles in baseball
    --0 of the last 7 National Titles in football
     
    Tiger_fan, Mar 22, 2013
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  9. Husker Ed

    Husker Ed Founding Member

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    Thanks for color coding that for me Tiger. I'm just a simple huckleberry...ah shucks.

    I will have to correct you though. The SEC has won 3 of the last 7 CWS titles (played right here in Omaha). 3 went to the PAC 12 and Fresno State had the other. If you want to rub it in at least be consistent.
     
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  10. Tiger_fan

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    i wrote 3 of the last 4, not 3 of the last 7
     
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