Big 12 Crew to officiate the Oregon/LSU game.

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  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    That should be the mission statement of every sports official.
     
  2. laduckfan

    laduckfan Veteran Member

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    If they're used to the no huddle, Chip Kelly will be very happy. He jaws at the Pac 10 refs all the time for not setting the ball quickly enough. If the Big 12 refs set it quickly, Oregon could be off to the races.

    I hear what you say about the no huddle not always working. A lot of teams are leaning towards it, but I think it's the entire system that's in place, not just the speed that sets Oregon apart from a lot of the other teams running the no huddle spread. Either you completely sell out to run that offense, or it won't work.

    Here's a quote from receivers coach Scott Frost explaining it better then I ever could.

    "Our system isn't necessarily unique. I always compare it with what Nebraska used to run, the option, when I was there. When I was in school, a lot of teams tried to run some of the option stuff we ran, just like a lot of people try to run what Oregon runs. It's not any kind of fancy scheme that nobody else understands or knows about. It's just the system. What we do is run a complete system. It has answers for everything a defense can throw at us. I think when you just try to run a piece or two of a system, and you don't have the complete thing, it's hard to get really good at it. It's hard to have answers when people have answers for what you're doing. That's really the beauty of what Chip does. We're 100 percent sold out to do what we do. We're really good at it, and we know all the adjustments no matter what's going on with the defense."
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Once upon a time there was a dazzling new offense called The Wishbone. it was a triple-option "football system" originating in high schools where they didn't have a lot of athletic big men. Teams like Nebraska and Alabama embraced it and won championships for several years. The Wishbone had answers for everything a defense could throw at it. It was not any kind of fancy scheme that nobody else understands or knows about. It was just the system. . It was a sound system--effective, relentless, and ultimately . . . predictable.

    Defenses soon learned the system, too. The evolved the defense and took away one of the options. Then they got speedier instead of bulkier and took away the other two. Worse, they then began to spoof and job the offense with deceptive defenses that used the system itself to control how a play went. Teams began to lose with it.

    Soon the Wishbone had gone back to high schools where it was still effective, and major conferences returned to the pro-style offenses and defenses that offered better prospects. Offenses that were far more versatile and unpredictable than rote systems.

    And they lived happily ever after.
     
  4. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    Well, we talked about whether the refs would hurry up and set up the ball real fast and he said No. They determine the tempo within reason and work at their pace. I doubt that will be an advantage to the ducks. They're not going to alter the tempo in favor of one team. That's why Kelly probably screams at the officials in the Pac 12. They're probably doing their job as well.

    The refs don't cater to a team....they control the game.
     
  5. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    Red, remember the veer we used to run....another gimmick offense.



    I hear that LSU is going to install the single wing just for the Oregon game....Shhhhhh!
     
  6. COTiger

    COTiger 2010 Bowl Pick 'Em Champ

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    I associate teams that ran the true wishbone developed by Emory Bellard to include OU & Texas more so than Nebraska. I first saw the wishbone when Darrell Royal was running it in Austin in the mid to late '60s.
     
  7. laduckfan

    laduckfan Veteran Member

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    Chip Kelly jaws the refs the same way many other coaches do, to try and gain an advantage. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The PAC 10/12 officials last year were a bunch of chubby, out of shape refs that had a hard time with Oregon's tempo. No one else in the conference runs the no-huddle all game long, so they're not use to it.
    It sounds to me that the BIG 12 refs are least better prepared for it than the PAC12 refs are. We'll see.
     
  8. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    We can't forget about another gimmick offense, the oopty oop.

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    Man Coach Kilmer hated that.
     
  9. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    Speaking of gimmicks....any one remember the "flex" defense ???

    Dallas used it and the saints adopted it....it sucked !!
     
  10. GoDucks349

    GoDucks349 Veteran Member

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    I think that's a defense the Ducks tried many years ago. Came out of the Canadian football league if I remember correctly. We gave up points and yards like we were giving them away. I don't think any tackles for losses occurred and I don't think contact with a ball carrier happened until he was at least 5 yards past the line of scrimmage.
     

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