BCS will have to deal with the Boise State situation all year long

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  1. trackfan

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    History was made when the polls came out Sunday. The AP is 74 years old and the Coaches' poll is 60 years old, and it marked the first time in the history of either poll that a team has ever dropped in the polls after beating a team by the margin of victory that Boise State beat New Mexico State. If instead of playing Florida this past weekend, Alabama had played one of the cream puffs on its schedule, such as San Jose State, Duke or 1-AA Georgia State, is there any chance that they would have dropped if they had beaten them 59-0, regardless of what the team behind them did? Or if Ohio State had beaten Eastern Michigan, Ohio or Marshall 59-0, is there any chance they would have dropped? The bottom line is that Boise State wasn't punished for what they did. They were punished for who they are. According to Kelly Whiteside of USA Today, some coaches have Boise State ranked as low as 10th, which leads me to believe that those coaches probably have LSU ranked ahead of them!:confused:

    There's been a debate going on all season about whether or not Boise State or TCU can overcome their week conference schedules and computer rankings and make it to the championship game. It was always going to be an uphill stuggle, but obviously they can't make it if some coaches are pursuing an agenda to keep them out at all cost, instead judging them based on what they've done on the football field.
     
  2. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Actually what I think we're headed for is something like this:

    1. Alabama 12-1
    2. Nebraska 12-1
    3. Boise State 12-0
    4. TCU 12-0

    Fill in your teams for the top 2 slots (OU, Miami, Oregon, etc). I just went with those 2 as possible examples.

    That's what we are really headed for and what the BCS will have to deal with at season's end.

    How does an undefeated Boise State and TCU, ranked high at the beginning of the season go undefeated and still be usurped by a pair of 1 loss teams?

    It will happen (the jumping over Boise State and TCU part, I mean). Whether we actually get no other undefeated beyond TCU and Boise is yet to be decided.
     
  3. trackfan

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    Alabama maybe, but not Nebraska. Their schedule is weaker than Boise State's and TCU's. They will likely play fewer ranked teams than the Horned Frogs or the Broncos, and they struggled to beat a 1-AA team by 14 points while TCU and Boise State don't even have any 1-AA teams on their schedules.
     
  4. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    That's not the point.

    I said insert your own teams in the first 2 spots.

    The reality of 2 one loss BCS teams being ranked higher in the final BCS polls over unbeaten Boise State and TCU is a very real likelihood.
     
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    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Boise State is praying Nevada can keep it up until their Nov 26 meeting.

    Boise State could be looking at playing a top 10 Nevada by that time, if Nevada runs the table That could easily give Boise State the boost it needs to fend off BCS conference winning schools from overtaking them in the BCS. A blowout victory would go a long way towards that end.
     
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    In the other thread I spoke of how things we don't see coming and huge upsets could straighten things out.

    How's this for a scenario; Championship Weekend. Three teams in the country left unbeaten; LSU, Oregon, and Boise State. BCS standings read thusly; 1. Oregon 2. LSU 3. Boise State. Everyone else in the country has a loss or two and is pretty much mathematically eliminated from the top two BCS spots regardless of what happens.

    What if (big if) Oregon State (who doesn't lose again) beats Oregon in Corvallis that weekend?

    That would be an absolutely devastating checkmate of Oregon by Boise State (who has already beaten OSU). How can you keep Boise out of the title game at that point?

    Juice up the scenario further; move Boise State down to #4 and put a one-loss Nebraska or Ohio State at #3. Everything else being equal, does a Beavers upset of the Ducks give the Broncos enough juice to leapfrog whoever is at 3? Maybe so.

    This could be crazy.
     
  7. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Nebraska is winning their Big 12 CG that weekend so they stay #3.
     
  8. SyrTiger

    SyrTiger ooo yea thats hot

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    It would be nice if everyone treated Ohio State equally to Boise St. They make so much of how good Ohio State is and have them #1, yet their wins are mostly cupcakes.

    Ohio, Eastern Michigan, Marshall, and Indiana are some of the worst teams in the FBS. Plus they still have Minnesota and Purdue, who are no good. Minnesota's one of the biggest jokes out there right now.

    On top of their weak schedule, they don't have the conference title game that the Big 12 and SEC have. They also play only 4 road games.

    @Iowa, Miami, @Wisconsin, and Michigan are their only good games, and Miami may end up not being that good anyway.

    Boise St. doesn't have a good schedule, yet @VT, Oregon St, and @Nevada might be just as good a resume as Ohio St has. If anything, VT is getting better while Miami is getting worse.

    In the end I think we'll know who deserves to be in. TCU could be SOL because they were beaten last year by Boise. People won't admit that they take that game into consideration, but they will. No chance, IMO, both TCU and Boise get in, so they will use last year's game to decide it and Boise won it.

    IMO, this is how I would rank undefeated teams.

    1. SEC, whoever it is that's undefeated.
    2. Big 12, whoever it is that's undefeated.
    3. Oregon
    4. Michigan St.
    5. Ohio St.
    6. Boise St.
    7. Utah/TCU

    What's funny is that if BYU wasn't down, and they still were undefeated or 1 loss, I would move TCU/Utah ahead of the Big 10 and Boise St. That would be enough to make their schedule's pretty darn tough and IMO worthy of high consideration for the title game.
     

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