"Bama's Bounty?" Will the SEC Suspend Dial?

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  1. vshouse

    vshouse Veteran Member

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    The eye gouging should be reviewed and dealt with by the sec office just like the hit on murray should, especially when they have already suspended players from other teams for the same thing. That's all we're saying. The tipped no tipped ball should have been reviewed by the booth they didn't do so in time. The biggest complaint on bama...by MANY teams not just lsu is the obvious holds that bama gets away with......and I know every play could have holding calls, but at least call the blatant holds.
     
  2. plotalot

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    Terry, I'd call the eye gouging unknown or at least relatively unknown. You have mentioned it but haven't pointed to any evidence of it and the fact that it was overlooked. The tipped ball incident was a close call. Seeing it in real time I missed it all together. Watching it on a replay it plainly passed through the lineman's hands and couldn't tell whether he touched it or not. The flight of the ball didn't seem to be altered any, but there wasn't enough evidence to overrule the call. That is one of the problems with video replay, the camera doesn't always see what the official on the field sees. The alternate view from a camera a lot of the time is very helpful in getting a call correct, but in this case deferring to the call on the field was the right thing to do even if it was a bad call. I don't think the ball was tipped either, but if I was the video replay official I wouldn't have overruled the call on the field.
     
  3. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    I'd have to count them. I don't know.

    How many holding calls are missed each game, with each team? It's one of the most subjective calls in the game.

    Two, maybe three years ago, I asked Penn Wagers about how they decide what's holding on a play. According to him it was depending on whether they felt it directly had a bearing on the success of the play.

    Based on that, while it's a simple thing to define, it's as subjective as pass interference.

    I didn't like the answer. But, it is what it is—or was what it was.
     
  4. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    Fair enough. Like I mentioned, I was just curious if it was missed or simply unknown.

    It's like the call/non-call on Dial. I don't know if it was missed or if it was a judgement call.

    It's one of those calls a player ends on on the wrong end. Dee was flagged for a personal.

     
  5. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    I didn't know about it till I followed a link in this thread to tidefans. Dude should have been penalized. Two officials standing right there, but were not looking.



    As to the tipped ball, I would have overturned it on replay.

    As to Dial hitting Murray, he should have been flagged and suspended for the next game.

    ETA: Damn, I took a long time to construct this post as I see you posted the video as well. Getting old and slow sucks.
     
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  6. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    Did not realize he was flagged. He got what he deserved.
     
  7. plotalot

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    Yeah the UGA player slipped that in when the refs were looking down and baited your guy into retaliating. With the video showing what happened I would hope the conference does some about this one as well. I wouldn't have a problem with going to video on any dead ball personal fouls to see what actually started the incident. Looks to me that 28 was defending himself more than anything. If I was the same hypothetical replay official as I was before and had the right to review dead ball PFs, Georgia would have been penalized and suggested to Ritter to send 2 to the showers.
     
  8. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    Here's a twist to the conversation.

    A guy gets poked in the eyes and loses his temper for a minute. But, if we take was CC said earlier in the thread a disciplined team never loses control of emotions during a game.

    Yes, Dee should have been flagged.

    If we are talking about players that need suspending I'm curious how UGA handles this one. They sent a tape into the SEC offices about Dial. Did they send this one as well? Is it handled by the coaching staff?

    As I see it, one is a judgement call. The other flagrant.

    Oh well, it is what it is...
     
  9. TUSKtimes

    TUSKtimes Riding the Wave

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    Are you including Georgia's Stripen, #44, who back handed Hayes, then pushed him down? If not at least 3. Georgia's fun, always plenty to talk about, days later.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    SEC refs apparently don't call holding anymore. There is flagrant holding in every game. Sam Montgomery got tackled in the Arkansas game with the ref watching from 10 feet away. No flag.
     

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