Bama game over before it even started (Devin White suspended for first half)

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  1. furduknfish

    furduknfish #ohnowesuckagain

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    #weepforthefuture
     
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  2. DeeDee

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    LSU can win if they use a high-risk blitzing defense and use QB/WCAT runs at least 25% of plays.
     
  3. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    It was a textbook tackle. Arms are wrapping up the QB, not shoving. His face mask was planted between the numbers. Squarely. He ran through the player and then rolled off to the side--hell, even fits with the NFL definitions.

    Could it have been called? Yes. Would it have stood? I don't think so, but I don't know.

    The rule clearly states hands, forearms, and elbows in contact with the head and neck area...targeting.

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    Defenseless: It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in adefenseless posture. Players in a defenseless posture are: A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass (passing posture) A receiver attempting to catch a pass who has not had time to clearly become a runner.

    Targeting and Making Forcible Contact to Head or Neck Area of a Defenseless Player
    ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)
    Note 1: “Targeting” means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:
    • Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
    • A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
    • Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
    • Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet

    It could be argued he launched into him as well. But, that wasn't the call. It was the contact to the head and neck area. That's not a normal running stance...look at his feet.

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  4. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    The contact was to qb’s chest; at one point his hand appeared parallel to neck area? Ha ha ha.

    Alabama player targeted - no call. LSU player didn’t target - miss first half of Bama.

    If y’all lose to this LSU team, without our best player the first half, well, bless Saban’s heart. Y’all might get another shot in the playoff.
     
  5. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    If you can't see that, I can't help you. My god, the impact is pushing his head to the left. Easily seen here.

    Look. I don't agree with how this rule was written. I don't agree with how it's been called. And I definitely don't believe getting booted for the first flag is the right penalty.

    That said, when it comes to those who have watched this play (the talking heads) I've yet to hear one say it was a bad call. In fact, everyone I've read/heard said the opposite. The majority also said, "the penalty is too harsh."
     
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  6. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Terry, you said you thought it was a good call. You're the only one (outside of the officials) that I've seen say that.

    Roughing the passer, I could see. Targeting, no fucking way.
     
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  7. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    I think it was the correct call based on how the rule is written.

    The way this rule was implemented and structured has been FUBAR from day one.
     
  8. LSUTiga

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    Sorry, I edited cause I saw where you'd said as much.
     
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  9. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    His hand is in the vicinity of fitz’s head. That proves what? Nothing. Dude’s head did not react, that was a body blow. Total shit call, especially in light of Bama’s targeting no call. Talking heads got their marching orders from Vegas, same as the refs.

    Still annoyed, but I’ll leave it to LSU admin to work back channels. That’s Alleva’s strength... oh wait, never mind. Fuck it. Next man up. :p

    Hell, just viewed your link, White absorbed most of that impact in his arms.
     
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  10. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    @lsutiga BTW, have you followed any of the story with Washington State, USC and the targeting over turned in the PAC?
     

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