Attempted Terrorist (Airplane) Attack?

Glad you came back with the usual bull****.

Substance you lack.

 

Again you try to make a joke about RP. To bad the joke is on you. Go over and join the herd with SF.

 

one of the biggest problems on this planet is that fools believe there is a connection between religion and ethics/morals. there is no connection. any similarity between what religions teach and what is actually a good plan is purely happenstance.

rex could not be more right.

religion is the basis for morals as much as it is the basis for the rules of baseball. there is zero connection. we have rules that make us happy and keep things working smoothly, and we have religion, two totally separate things.

when you believe that morals come from religion, that is when things truly get dangerous, because you stop caring about reason.

i would go so far as to say that if you are religious, you should be ashamed for being fooled so easily.

 

Excuse me but you don't have to be religious to judge people, non-religious humans do that often.
As far as morals and ethics go there are plenty of people that do or don't have ethics or morals on both sides of the coin.
Heck, Liberals use to complain about the right trying to influence their lives by abortion while they are totally for it in the name of global warming.

Religion isn't the problem, people are the problem.
People do things for selfish reasons across the spectrum, religion gets the blame in some cases and in others there is no reason given for ones action.
People would always be just as bad and wrong even if religion didn't exist, Hitler, Stalin, etc.
Once again the analogy is spot on when people try and band guns because they are bad.
You can use the same analogy that religion is bad, that is not correct.

People are the problem no matter whether its guns, alcohol, drugs, religion, politicians, etc.
U can't have it both ways so u two must be against American's rights to own guns, alcohol, etc.
Be proud, Martin and yourself are thinking like Liberals!

 

Of course you don't have to be religious to judge people. It's just that it is inherent within religion to do so. Judged whether you go to hell or not, judged whether you believe or not, judged by the sins you make, judged by how much goodness you do, judged by showing how much of a religious person you are. Judge Judge Judge. It's almost a cornerstone of religion.

 

certainly im with you on most of this but i dont think they are "being fooled". most are just staying within the social framework of their family. most never really consider religion's validity/veracity---it just IS. those sorts of social/familial bonds have real power and value.

 

no doubt about it.

sometimes i see these jews in brooklyn, with their stupid outfits and beards, and their refusal to use technology on certain days, and the women with their stupid headcoverings and whatever, and i think "how could this person not realize it is 2010". and i always remind myself that everyone they know, their whole social structure, every person they care about, it all might be lost if they quit.

 

It seems to me that you people are judging religious people.
What is the point of all of this?

There are people in every culture and every part of life you could say the same type of things about that aren't religious.
Are U trying to ban religion, culture, etc?
Culture is just as much part of that as religion probably more.
I'm sure some could look at anyones lifestyle and say something to that effect.
What would make you happy?
You wanna take away people's rights just like the left is trying to do?
Would that make you happy to ban religion because you don't like it?
You are ok with banning trans fat and guns?

 

I simply pointed out religion is not the mother of ethics. And in fact it teaches more of the opposite.

 

And I pointed out that there is plenty of things other than religion that is not the mother of ethics either, Liberalism, Communism, Marxist isn't either.
There is good and bad in everything including religion, politics, I acknowledge that.
I think you guys totally ignore the good and concentrate on the bad.

Now the truth is out.
You are taking all religions and bunching them together into one.
I guess you can do that if you want.
We will let everyone decide for themselves over that one.