Atheists, agnostics most knowledgeable about religion, survey says

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  1. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Does your religion allow babies to be killed so the bitches don't have to deal with them?
     
  2. martin

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    i dont have a religion, but the religion i do not have allows for that, yes. encourages it even. bitches shouldnt have to deal with babies they dont want.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I agree with you.
     
  4. martin

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    i dont understand what you guys mean.

    if there was a buffet, and on that buffet were various faiths, and you can choose one, and put one on your plate, and everyone came along choosing one, or being assigned one, and some people simply didnt choose one at all, those folks are without a faith, they are atheists. everyone else that did choose one is a theist. you either have a faith or you dont. i dont see how this can be misunderstood.

    "i dont know if the faiths exist" is not an option. whatever you think makes you agnostic, this is not a real option, becasue that misunderstands the question.

    the question is not whether there is a god. the question is whether YOU believe there is a god. clearly the question of whether a god exists is undetermined. but given that there is zero evidence for god, then the only rational position is to lack faith. if you are able to resist the various faiths and remain faithless, you are atheist. if you cannot resist, you are with faith, you are theist. so simple. whats the holdup, amigos?
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You are talking in circles and boring us, Ace.

    You say that "the question of whether a god exists is undetermined" and then suggest that this means that one can only be an atheist. How perfectly absurd and self-contradictory.
     
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    this perfectly explains why you dont understand my examples. why would anyone beleive in something that is undetermined, and has no evidence whatsoever in in its favor? of course the only rational position is to not believe!

    if i told you there were monkeys at your house right now, cooking you dinner, and when you got home they would have a warm pair of wranglers waiting for you, along with a pipe full of weed and a medium rare steak, would you believe it? keep in mind is literally undetermined whether this is true or not. i am not asking you if the monkeys are really there or not, neither of us knows. i am asking you if you believe they are.
     
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    Because it is UNDETERMINED!

    Do you understand what undetermined means? It means "not known", which is also what "agnostic" means.

    You continue to confuse agnosticism with atheism, but the rest of the world does not.
     
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    why would you believe in something that undetermined? especially if there is no evidence for it?

    i dunno abot you, but i dont go around believing in stuff randomly. i dont believe until i have evidence.

    if i asked you if you believed your car would explode tonight, you would say "no i dont", even though you cant know for sure. it would be undetermined. so again, please try to understand, you still have a belief of lack of belief about something even though it is undetermined, based on the evidence (or lack) as you see it.

    i am really not trying to be needlessly argumentative, i know it seems like i am.
     
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    That isn't what you said above. See your point to Bud about he being an atheist with regards to the religion you made up.
     
  10. SabanFan

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    But you said you made one up:

     

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