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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Not once.
     
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    Um, there is a scientific answer to how you feel. It is based on many things science can measure.
     
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    Stating the obvious, but not answering the question directly. The point is that there are many and myriad questions that cannot be answered by science alone. Philosophy is only the most obvious genre of such questions. Sure you can try to pick it apart into scientific inquiries, but it still doesn't answer the philosophical theory at all. Many questions simply don't have answers. Legal questions can be even trickier in terms of straightforward "scientific" answers. Morality issues are notoriously impossible to "answer" scientifically. Moreover, there are scientific questions that have no scientific answers! Not all of science is clear and indisputable.

    Be careful of hitching onto martin's wagon, Hoss. I'm going to be using all of this against him soon. He is an unbridled philosopher with little scientific evidence to support him. He is an admitted and unrepentant thief with the philosophy that if something is easy to steal, it "ought to be" legal.
     
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    True, but when science doesn't have an answer, there is no truth associated. Therefore, how can they be claimed valid?
     
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    A question that can't be answered by science alone cannot be answered at all. All other answers are just made up.

    Also u are misrepresenting my position on the free exchange of Information.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It is entirely valid to have philosophical theories, validity does not connote "truth", it connotes "reasonability".
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Childishly absurd.

    I can answer the question "How do I feel?" without science.
     
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    so in that sense, one can have "theories" that are not true, but still, according to you, "valid"?

    presumably they are valid theories meaning that they fit the definition of what you call a theory.

    this reminds of that headline from the onion:

    "god answers prayers of crippled child asking for help: "no" says god."

    and the joke is that the "answer" has implied meaning, not the dictionary definition that red uses. the same way red defines a "valid" theory as any idea that a human can produce right or wrong, stupid or smart. and thats lovely is you are an idiot. but ultimately its just a cop out, and red has once again learned from martin to ignore conventional wisdom. when people are morons say "well there are questions science cannt answer, and that is the domain of the priest and the philosopher", those people are idiots.
     
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    you are aware that your observation and reporting of your physical state is a scientific process, right?

    after all this talk you still will not describe what you are talking about. is your health determined by unmentionable and indescribable fairies?
     
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    No you get everything wrong. One can have theories that cannot be answered but are still valid theories.

    Can you fucking read? I said a philosophical theory was valid if it was reasonable and cogent. Stop trying to put words in my mouth. It is the tactic of liars and fools.

    You are a Liar. I reject the fantasyland that is martinworld. It is inhabited by a liar and a thief.
     
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