Arizona Bills Require Constitution Loyalty Oath, Pledge Of Allegiance By Public School Students

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by LSUMASTERMIND, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2003
    Messages:
    19,026
    Likes Received:
    934
    Nah, I figure there is a 5% chance I convinced someone. You would be surprised, lots of people are religious purely because they ever thought about it and when I explain how idiotic is is they are like "yeah true enough what was I thinking"
     
  2. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2011
    Messages:
    6,532
    Likes Received:
    1,806
    Rex, honestly not trying to be difficult here but I've gone back and looked at our dialogue in this thread and I am not sure what you mean by the "first." I sincerely would like to respond to your comment but I want to be clear on what I am commenting on.
     
  3. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2011
    Messages:
    6,532
    Likes Received:
    1,806
    this is a poor analogy. 1 + 1= 2 because we have evidence of it. We can take one rock, set another rock beside it and then count them, which will always equal two. therefore if someone claims that it is 19 or 66 we have empirical evidence to support the argument that 1 + 1 is always 2. in this case we do not have a value to place on your theory or mine because they are both unknown so to call one side or the other stupid is indeed a matter of opinion and, as a result, is open for debate.

    this post of yours proves that you are trying to make this about religion and it is not. i have been very clear, as has Red and many others, that we are not advancing the idea of the God of the Bible or any other book for that matter. I am stating that because there is no evidence one way or another, the possibility of their being a supreme force or being or whatever else is relevant. it's not like I am a lone ranger in my thinking. there are theoretical physicists, very prominent ones, who also theorize about the potential for a supreme being.
     
  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2003
    Messages:
    19,026
    Likes Received:
    934
    If there is no evidence one way or another, then what is your theory based on?

    Yunno it's not a normal procedure to base a theory on absolutely no evidence whatsoever. It's a lot like my theory you that you beat your kids.

    You still don't get it. I don't have a theory. Only you do. Yours is without any evidence supporting it. My only "theory" is not a theory, it's a fact. My fact is that your "theory" is not supported by any evidence whatsoever. In fact I think we agree, you just said your theory has no value, which is exactly agreement with my opinion.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    Give it up, NC. He is just in the "get in the last post" captious mode now. It's how he concedes defeat.
     
    Tiger in NC likes this.
  6. martin

    martin Banned Forever

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2003
    Messages:
    19,026
    Likes Received:
    934
    We can't give up now we finally established common ground, that his theory was not based on anything, and is by definition, nonsense.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    Horseshit. You do not understand what a theory is if you think this. "by definition" my ass.

    Here is the definition of a theory straight from Wikipedia.

    Theory is a contemplative and rational type of abstract or generalizing thinking, or the results of such thinking. Depending on the context, the results might for example include generalized explanations of how nature works, or even how divine or metaphysical matters are thought to work. The word has its roots in ancient Greek, but in modern use it has taken on several different related meanings.

    One modern group of meanings emphasizes the speculative and generalizing nature of theory. For example in the arts and philosophy, the term "theoretical" may be used to describe ideas and empirical phenomena which are not easily measurable. And by extension of the philosophical meaning, "theoria" is also a word still used in theological contexts.

     
  8. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2008
    Messages:
    44,037
    Likes Received:
    18,027
    So what you are all saying is that Zeus being real is just as plausible as Jesus being real?
     
  9. martin

    martin Banned Forever

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2003
    Messages:
    19,026
    Likes Received:
    934
    No. Jesus may have existed.

    But magic Jesus, yes, that is what I am saying.
     
  10. martin

    martin Banned Forever

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2003
    Messages:
    19,026
    Likes Received:
    934
    Again, this theory is a lot like my theory that you abuse young boys.

    Not supported by any evidence, aggressively inane and pointless, but yunno, it's a "theory".

    Also of note is how you ignore the other result of you googling, the wiki for scientific theory.
     

Share This Page