Are the wheels falling off the LSU football program?

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Are the wheels falling off of the LSU football program?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Maybe

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  1. LSUpathdoc

    LSUpathdoc Trust me, I'm a Doctor

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    Cant agree more with this point. Losses are part of the game if we played like we know we can play there is no shame. We didn't play like that this past year and arguably we didn't play our best last year either.
     
  2. JohnLSU

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    Just because one doctor comes up with some conclusion doesn't mean that he is right. That's why you get a second opinion. Doctors are often wrong. And even if the doctor is right, some patients will complain about the product of his medical work because of the unrealistic and uneducated expectations they have. But if you ever succeed in your field as much as the LSU coaches have done in their fields, that would make you on the level of at least your med school teachers that you were a product of. The handful of doctors that I am good friends with that are huge LSU fans were very proud of the Tigers this year, even though they told me that had plenty of patients coming in whining about how "horrible" we were.
     
  3. lsudolemite

    lsudolemite CodeJockey Extraordinaire

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    LSU has been blessed with a lot of great skill players, but very little depth at crucial positions. QB has been a wreck because of RP and no backup plan by Les. Line play has been disastrous due to player dismissals, attrition, and talent that hasn't panned out for various reasons. So to be clear, the problems haven't been 100% on Les and the staff. However, there are a host of other issues that myself and many others have gone through that are directly attributable to coaching, that I will not rehash in gory detail here.

    IMO Les would benefit greatly by looking at what Sean Payton has done between the 2008 and 2009 season with the Saints. Another case where a lot of pieces were in place, but play in other areas was deficient. He swallowed his pride and made the adjustments that needed to be done. I sincerely hope Miles grows as a coach and becomes a better one over this offseason.
     
  4. JohnLSU

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    If LSU had a QB like Drew Brees, nobody would be complaining about the LSU coaching right now.
     
  5. ThePhenom74

    ThePhenom74 Founding Member

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    While JJ hasnt been a Brees like QB he hasnt played THAT bad. He does need to work big time on his pocket pressence. He has has to learn to not overthink situations and be too scared to throw the ball. The fact is though with the play calling this year and poor OL its a recipe for disaster. When they let JJ go down the field he didnt play that bad, but when confined he tended to make more mistakes. Like I said before a lot in on the players. But the kids arent being coached up at all. Look at the OL as case one for that. Look at JJ as well. THe fact is if LSU was being coached better we wouldnt have struggled nearly ever game outside of Auburn and maybe Tulane.
     
  6. lsudolemite

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    Is Payton coaching Brees to be a Mike Vick or even Vince Young like QB? No. Why? His strength is as a field general pocket passer. Now look at Jordan Jefferson. He is way too big with not nearly enough lateral quickness to be used as an option QB, yet Crowton is absolutely hell-bent on turning him into one. Very rarely was he allowed to do what he instinctively does best: run north-south with the football when nothing's there. Coaching is absolutely a factor in our problems, end of discussion.
     
  7. LSUpathdoc

    LSUpathdoc Trust me, I'm a Doctor

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    Really uncalled for to bring my profession into this. Did I ever say any thing like "I'm a doctor so I am right about LSU football". No To that end let me say. I know a lot of Johns and "Just because one John comes up with some conclusion doesn't mean that he is right." You have an opionion and I have one, we may disagree you weak attempt of being cute is lost on me.

    If you and your doctor friends are ok with going back to mediocrity thats ok, however I am. Dont miss understand I dont want Miles gone, I do however want him to become a little less stubborn with what players he plays. Hell at this point I can also say if we had to be stuck with his propensity to play lesser players because they are upperclassmen I could live with it if he would get rid of GC and stud. All you have to look at the trends and see that if we stay the course we will be mediocre in the SEC. In this case I think your doctor friends should listen to there patients.
     
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  8. DRC

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    Consider the source and read my sig. :grin:
     
  9. LSUpathdoc

    LSUpathdoc Trust me, I'm a Doctor

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    Yea I thought about it as well.
     
  10. LSUpride123

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    TO me, JJ's first year stats as a 19 yr old QB are normal.

    The problem is more with the play calling more than anything else.

    I think that if JJ had a better O line, he would have been under less pressure, we would have had a better run game and would have given us a better passing game.

    SO many variables go into putting the blame on 1 or more persons.

    LSU never played like a team from the coaches to the players. That is the reason LSU lost 4 games.
     
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